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Old Posted Dec 30, 2008, 12:17 PM
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December 30, 2008

* EXTELL'S ABYSS: Gary Barnett's company has more than one empty pit to ponder. But most visible is the one on West 57th Street across from Carnegie Hall.

Although Extell faces a challenge getting a construction loan, it seems determined to build, and recently filed with the Buildings Dept. to do exploratory excavation.

The project, according to a Kentucky-based securities firm hired by Extell, is to be an 882,000 square-foot tower rising to 1,000 feet and anchored by a Park Hyatt Hotel.

Not surprisingly, the description was yanked from Aegis Security Design's Web site as soon as we wrote about it.

But let's hope the plans stand - and that they get done.
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Another look at 57th Street where the tower would rise (on the left), from Eric E Johnson

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A thousand footer in the same neck of the woods as Tower Verre? But how can this be? I thought the objections to the Tower Verre centered on the "fact" it was in a part of the Manhattan "No Skyscraper Zone"???

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Yea... how dare anybody think about building skyscrapers in Midtown Manhattan, the most dense area on the planet in terms of commercial/office space.
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A thousand footer in the same neck of the woods as Tower Verre? But how can this be? I thought the objections to the Tower Verre centered on the "fact" it was in a part of the Manhattan "No Skyscraper Zone"???

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When you think about the canyons of Manhattan, these new towers really would have no effect at all, midblock or otherwise.
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A DOB height of 953ft is circulating on SSC.
     
     
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Just FYI, NYC DOB height is not the same as Emporis height.

NYC DOB only lists height to the top of the highest occupied floor.
     
     
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A DOB height of 953ft is circulating on SSC.
I wasn't aware they intended to move this fast, but it's there, dated March 2
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

73 stories, 953 ft.

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Just FYI, NYC DOB height is not the same as Emporis height.

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Yeah, so we still don't have the final height yet. But I'll change it to 953 ft until we do.
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March 3, 2009

There's big news on West 57th Street: Gary Barnett's Extell has at last filed plans with the Buildings Department for its hotel/condo tower diagonally across from Carnegie Hall.

The long-awaited, 953-foot tower between Sixth and Seventh avenues will soar to 73 stories, with the hotel and stores on floors one through 20, residential amenities on 21-22, and apartments on all the floors above them. The architect is Costas Kondylis, who designed Trump World Tower.

Extell's tower will have a hotel lounge and ballroom on the second floor; a res taurant on the third; a pool, spa, residential dining room and library on 21. The tower's total floor area will be 830,000 square feet.

All this follows our Dec. 2 report that the spire would include a "5-star," Park Hyatt Hotel - facts we gleaned from the Web site of Aegis Security Design, which Extell hired to provide "physical and electronic security" for the skyscraper.

Extell still won't confirm or deny the Park Hyatt deal and - surprise - Aegis is no longer involved with the project.

The $1 billion question remains how Barnett can get financing for the tower, even while most developers are starved for credit. But the purposefulness with which Extell has moved said it's a done deal.
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Extell Files Plans for Mammoth Midtown Tower

By Dana Rubinstein
March 2, 2009

Extell's Gary Barnett sure is keeping himself busy.

Last week, he disseminated nothing less than a manifesto to rescue the economy, and today, he filed plans with the Buildings Department for an 830,000-square-foot, Costas Kondylis-designed tower for the empty crater at 157 West 57th Street.

George Arzt, Extell's spokesman, said the tower would contain a hotel and a residential complex. If Extell's timing is right, the building might top off just as the economy begins its recovery, at some unknown and, frankly, unfathomable point in the future.

The New York Post's Steve Cuozzo first got wind of the hotel portion of the plans in December, by way, oddly enough, of a Web site belonging to Aegis Security Design, which, Mr. Cuozzo reported, "claims the tower diagonally across from Carnegie Hall will house a '5-star' Park Hyatt Hotel, stores and luxury condos."

The source for that story was an odd one because, as Mr. Cuozzo pointed out, "Aren't security firms supposed to keep secrets secure?"

Apparently, Extell agreed. Mr. Arzt tells us Aegis had signed a confidentiality agreement with the developer, and has since been axed.
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On floors 1-20 this Park Hyatt will not get any views of the park.
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Just FYI, NYC DOB height is not the same as Emporis height.

NYC DOB only lists height to the top of the highest occupied floor.
Yes, mechanical room, water towers and even penthouses are often not included in NY DOB listed heights, seem to be more prevelent in residential bldgs than commercial bldgs. This bldg could easily reach 1,000 ft when total structural height is determined.
     
     
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Hmmm. The DOB application lists air rights of 1.6 million square feet for the collection of lots assembled, and this tower will only use half of them.
     
     
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Hmmm. The DOB application lists air rights of 1.6 million square feet for the collection of lots assembled, and this tower will only use half of them.
I saw that too. The application also said the tower wall would reach 953 ft. I just wish we had a rendering.
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So is Pontzamparc still designing this with Kondylis as arch of record? Who the hell is designing this building we haven't seen yet?
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So is Pontzamparc still designing this with Kondylis as arch of record? Who the hell is designing this building we haven't seen yet?
This was listed on the permit application also:

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today, he filed plans with the Buildings Department for an 830,000-square-foot, Costas Kondylis-designed tower for the empty crater at 157 West 57th Street.
As far as I know, Pontzamparc is doing Extell's Riverside Center project on the west side.
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Extell Files Plans for Midtown Hotel/Condo

By Paul Bub
March 3, 2008

NEW YORK CITY-Amid news of projects from other developers that are being postponed or curtailed altogether, Extell Development Co. has filed plans with the city for an upcoming residential-hotel complex. Reportedly totaling 830,000 square feet, the complex will rise on a 110,891-square-foot vacant lot diagonally across from Carnegie Hall at 157 W. 57th St.

According to Department of Buildings records, plans were filed on Monday and the application was assigned to an examiner on Tuesday. A spokesman for Extell did not provide GlobeSt.com with further details by deadline on the project’s estimated costs or completion date.

Extell’s application calls for a 73-story tower 953 feet tall. It will include 150 residential units, according to DOB records. In December, the New York Post reported that the hotel component would be a Hyatt; this could not be confirmed by Tuesday’s GlobeSt.com deadline.

Architect on the project is Costas Kondilys & Associates. Kondilys is also working on Extell’s 880,000-square-foot Riverside South residential project on the Upper West Side.

In July, GlobeSt.com reported that Extell and its partners the Carlyle Group and RREEF secured a $613-million construction loan on Riverside South. That project will include a mix of for-sale and rental apartments in two buildings. At the time, Extell president Gary Barnett said in a prepared statement that "the Upper West Side continues to be a big draw."

GlobeSt.com in December reported progress on another Extell project, the 1.5-million-square-foot World Product Centre that will serve as a trade mart for medical service companies from around the world to showcase new products. Excavation and marketing had begun on the 60-story project, to be built at 555 W. 33rd St. Extell is developing the 977-foot tower, scheduled for completion in 2013, in partnership with the Greater New York Hospital Association.
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No rendering, but here's the footprint, which will front mostly on 57th, through to 58th.



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This is actually becoming very exciting. With the delays in the Tower Verre planning/construction this will be more than an ample substitute. Lets hope the renderings don't disappoint, or, perhaps we should hope that we get to see some renderings "before" construction is started.
     
     
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