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Old Posted Jun 18, 2009, 3:00 AM
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They're all different projects - not connected. But we have yet to see any steel rising here.
I have to assume that Extell is just getting their ducks in a row here so they can be the first project out of the ground in the next cycle. I would be VERY surprised if anything actually happened on the building in the near future.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2009, 3:27 AM
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I would be VERY surprised if anything actually happened on the building in the near future.
If anything, you would see foundation work.
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I have to assume that Extell is just getting their ducks in a row here so they can be the first project out of the ground in the next cycle. I would be VERY surprised if anything actually happened on the building in the near future.
The building is already permitted, so something is happening right now.

You don't apply for building permits in NYC unless you're actually planning to build, for a number of reasons, which I can detail if people want the boring bureaucratic explanations.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2009, 4:02 AM
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The building will have a Park Central with no views of the park. It will be a lame hotel, unless they expand it the hotel up. I'm only saying this if the building is built. It would be nice to have a cluster of 4 tall buildings.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2009, 2:54 PM
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The building will have a Park Central with no views of the park. It will be a lame hotel, unless they expand it the hotel up. I'm only saying this if the building is built. It would be nice to have a cluster of 4 tall buildings.
I don't think the people who will stay there will be in for the views alone, which will be great either way you look at it. Better to save the best views for the expensive apartments though.
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Cool project with a good location, hopefully it gets built, anyone have any recent updates?
     
     
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Et dans quelques jours, il dévoilera sa nouvelle tour de 330 mètres, à Manhattan, en face du Carnegie Hall, sur la 57e Avenue. Un record de hauteur pour une tour de logement, d'une forme aussi incroyable que celle construite pour LVMH, en 1995.
For those who don't speak French,

"In a few days, he will unveil his new 330-meter (1,083-foot) tower, in Manhattan, in front of Carnegie Hall, on 57th Avenue (sic). A height record for a residential tower, of a shape as remarkable as that built for LVMH, in 1995."

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Wow, this one just saw a height increase of more than 100 feet. Then again, I'm not jumping around in excitement as I'm sure the NIMBY's will try and derail this new tower.
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It's an as-of-right tower, so the NIMBYs can't do anything.

NIMBYs can only influence the height when there are need for government variances or other zoning changes.
     
     
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This SOUNDS awesome!!! Let's hope it LOOKS awesome!!!
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You don't have to worry about NIMBYs here. You do have to worry about the financing.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 3:16 AM
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For those who don't speak French,

"In a few days, he will unveil his new 330-meter (1,083-foot) tower, in Manhattan, in front of Carnegie Hall, on 57th Avenue (sic). A height record for a residential tower, of a shape as remarkable as that built for LVMH, in 1995."
Thanks for the headsup. This is one of those towers that's been under the radar. Ironic that it could end up taller than the Tower Verre.
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Possibly two towers taller than Torre Verre on 57th Street alone.

We don't know anything about the other Extell site, but the zoning on the other site allows for more buildable square feet than on this site.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 4:08 AM
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Possibly two towers taller than Torre Verre on 57th Street alone.

We don't know anything about the other Extell site, but the zoning on the other site allows for more buildable square feet than on this site.
Yeah, Gary Barnett has certainly turned into one of the more aggressive developers in the city. Besides the 1,011 ft WPC planned for a start next year, there was the 980 ft proposal for the convention center hotel (that was dropped by the state). Before all is said and done, he may have left more of a mark on the city's skyline than Donald Trump.
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Meanwhile, though the height may well increase, here's more good news...
http://www.cityrealty.com/new_develo...sider_news/#in

Partial permit issued today for 953-foot-high, mixed-use tower at 155 West 57th Street



24-Sep-09


The Department of Buildings issued a partial permit today for a 953-foot-high hotel and apartment tower at 155 West 57th Street that is planned by Extell Development.

The plan calls for a 73-story tower with about 150 residential condominium apartments on the top 52 floors.

The plans were filed by Jim Davidson of SLCE but rumors have circulated that Christian de Portzamparc may also be involved in the project. Mr. de Portzamparc has designed a multi-tower plan for Extell's development of the site near the East River between 59th and 61st Street west of West End Avenue at the south end of its portion of the Riverside South development that had been started by Donald Trump.

Mr. de Portzamparc designed in 1999 the prismatic mid-block tower for LVMH on 57th Street between Fifth and Madison Avenues and had also designed an angular tower for the adjacent corner site on Madison Avenue but that tower was not built. He is perhaps best known for his 1995 tower in Lille, France, that has no edge parallel to another, and his undulating Hotel Renaissance Marriott on Wagram Avenue in Paris, which was completed this year and for his oblique office tower known as the Granite Project that is under construction at La Defense in Paris.

He has also designed a 40-story, 436-unit apartment building at 400 Park Avenue South for A & R Kalimian Realty, which had also commissioned him to design a new home for the New York City Opera and an apartment tower for a site it had acquired near the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts from the American Red Cross in 2004. The opera company, however, eventually withdrew from the latter project.

The 21st floor would house a residential dining room, library and lounge and floors 22 through 30 would have 6 apartments per floor, floors 31 through 45 would have 4 apartments per floor, the 46th floor would be mechanical equipment, floors 47 through 58 would have two apartments per floor, floors 59 and 60 would constitute one duplex apartment, floors 61 through 70 would have one apartment per floor, and floors 71 and 72 would constitute one duplex apartment.

Excavation of the site has been proceeding recently. The site is across 57th Street from the Russian Tea Room restaurant and the Metropolitan Tower. The new tower, on which Frank Williams and Costas Kondylis, the architects, had also worked, would be taller than the area's three tallest skyscrapers: Carnegie Hill Tower and the Metropolitan Tower on 57th Street, and CitiSpire on 56th Street. The new tower would block some views of Central Park from the Metropolitan Tower, which has an angled facade.

Foundation work is underway at the site, which is adjacent to the great Alwyn Court apartment building on the southeast corner of 58th Street and Seventh Avenue and the former CAMI Hall at 163-5 West 57th Street, both official city landmarks.


Extell owns another development site nearby to the west, the former Hard Rock restaurant location on 57th Street.

Mr. de Portzamparc, a winner of the Pritzker Prize, will discuss his recent work Tuesday at 6 PM at the Center for Architecture at 536 La Guardia Place on the west side of Silver Towers south of Washington Square Park in a lecture sponsored by the New York Chapter of the American Institute of Architecture of La Maison Francaise of New York University.
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 7:21 AM
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Partial permit issued today for 953-foot-high, mixed-use tower at 155 West 57th Street

Foundation work is underway at the site,


Good news
     
     
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as much as i like this tower being built, i don't like its location. it would be better on the west side, which needs massive development. there we could see three supertalls (wpc & gira sole) soaring!

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"In a few days, he will unveil his new 330-meter (1,083-foot) tower, in Manhattan, in front of Carnegie Hall, on 57th Avenue (sic). A height record for a residential tower, of a shape as remarkable as that built for LVMH, in 1995."
It nice to finally get a hint as to what the ultimate height might be.


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as much as i like this tower being built, i don't like its location. it would be better on the west side, which needs massive development. there we could see three supertalls (wpc & gira sole) soaring!
Don't worry about the towers on the westside; they will come in due time. In particular, there will be at least 2 other supertalls next to the Girasole and WPC as they are on the four-corners sites.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 6:57 PM
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Went by the site earlier, and they are indeed busy excavating. Makes the immenent reveal all the more exciting. Maybe they are close to a construction loan or just want to be ready to go. Either way, things are looking up here.
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Great news, we really could see a 1000 footer rise in midtown!
     
     
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