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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 4:01 AM
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I had read that in an official document.
How many office space build New York metro ?

Is this a Paris vs NY thread ?

Let's just discuss about Phare, OK ?
I wonder if the height figure has been modified. I also wonder about the wind turbines on top...
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 6:45 AM
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These renders are really bad in quality.
The official height is always 300m
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 7:21 AM
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These renders are really bad in quality.
The official height is always 300m
Well, in that case, the following diagram is not acurate. Is that what you're saying ?

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Oh man I am MUCH a fan of Ferrier's tower above...that would be more than enough to re-vamp the look and expansion of tower space in La Defense.

As far as that 'other' thing is concened (the Phare)...ughh. Paris could VERY much do without that monster and be MUCH better off. I don't even want to get into the names and sick descriptions I have heard for that gross structure previously: The pickle, the fetus, the 'hairy' tower, and my personal favorite, the Shmoo:




I honestly can say even for 300m, I pray that thing doesn't get built.

Keep up everything else though!
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I like how many have such a strong opinion on a tower that hasn't been build yet...
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 7:38 PM
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I like how many have such a strong opinion on a tower that hasn't been build yet...
Hopefully, it will never be.

I can't believe that I don't support the construction of France's tallest skyscraper.
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Not accurate or true, at least as far as New York goes. We're not even talking suburbs.
There's only about 11 m.s.f of office U/C now in NY. Very little office space is being built outside of Manhattan.
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I love Paris, I love La Défense & I think Thom Mayne's building would do nothing but compliment the uniqueness of the city...

Can't wait to see it when it's built, I will fly over just to see it in person!
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 9:20 PM
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Hopefully, it will never be.

I can't believe that I don't support the construction of France's tallest skyscraper.
Actually it is only second. Generalli is taller.
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I thought that on the non-flat side it would always looking incomplete, as in unfinished but with the rendering of the flat side I thought perhaps this was a new building or rendering and it looks just as incomplete/unfinished. I just don't see this as being something enduring.
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Hi everyone! First pics of a new project for LD! Some of you probably know them already.

Tower D2 (150m)









Tour PB22 (220-230m)











Tour Majunga (235m)



Tour Air² (200m approx)








This is getting really exciting! Cheers!

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@Higherisbetter : welcome to the forum



Model photographed by Krapulax :





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Thx Fabb for welcoming me and for those new pics.
Is this model the one in the museum of LD? Finally up-to-date? It looks great! I gotta go there!
Phare looks better here. I'm starting to get used to it!
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2007, 8:08 PM
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Thx Fabb for welcoming me and for those new pics.
Is this model the one in the museum of LD?
I guess the model is at the espace info Défense. I don't know how acurate it is.

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Phare looks better here. I'm starting to get used to it!
I'm not. But I'm doing my best.

I just hope that the Tour Signal won't be even worse. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Better rendering of Generali :

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I'm not a fan of generali, it would look better without the central pinnacle.
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i can deal with generali. the central pinnacle serves a great function of providing the building with renewable energy. i find it less distracting that when the plans were first released.

i've given tour phare a long time to digest and a fair chance. as progressive of an architect as i am, i still can't help but find the tower ungainly in proportion. i'd really like to read what the jury's comments were for why they chose thom mayne's proposal. anyone know if there is such a document or any public comments made? has thom mayne released any of his developmental work for the project? all i have seen are final models and renders and thus don't really understand the intent of the thing.
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The Russian Company Hermitage SAS plans to build in Paris an analogue of the Federation Tower, which is currently under construction in Moscow. The 300 meter high tower with the total floor area of 250 000 square meters will be constructed in La Défense business district of Paris and promises to become the highest residential building in Europe. Beside apartments, there will be an apart-hotel and offices. The parent company of Hermitage SAS will build also an office tower with the floor area of 120 thousand square meters within the limits of Paris Conurbation.

The both towers are estimated at €2.5 billion. However, the French party hasn’t confirmed the project yet. Hermitage SAS has got several similar residential projects in France.
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/5077/
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^Incredible.
But I'm more skeptical than excited.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2007, 8:03 PM
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Competition for Tour Signal officially started!

According to its official website, the EPAD (authorties managing LD) made a first selection of 18 architects for the Tour Signal Competition.
The competition is based on a new concept: Architect/Investor teams make proposals for a mix-used tower (office, shopping, housing, services), there's no imposed plot. More than 30 teams were involved, showing the interest around this ambitious project.

And the nominees are:
-Architecture Studio
-Chistian de Portzamparc
-Jean Nouvel
-Beyrac Sawsan
-Cesar Pelli
-Christophe Ingenhoven
-DGLa
-Foster and Partners
-Hervé Tordjman
-Jacques Ferrier
-Jean Paul Viguier
-Manuelle Gautrand
-Philippe Chiambaretta
-Rem Koolhaas
-RMJM Hillier
-Studio Libeskind
-Wilmotte et Associés SA et Steven Holl
-Zaha Hadid

Hand-in deadline February 08, selection of 5 projects for the final jury March 08, Final jury and result april 08.

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