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Old Posted Nov 22, 2018, 12:44 AM
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When I found out that what they have in store for this site is a climbing gym I almost tossed my lunch

I'd take the Taco Bell back
Do you live in the neighborhood?
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Do you live in the neighborhood?
Not now. But I have spent A LOT of time there. I worked in the area for a few years and lived close enough. I also spent a lot of weekends in my youth the 80s seeing shows at the Cubby Bear and staying up late at the Smart Bar.

I lived for a while in SF on Divisadero Street. People always trashed the Popeye's Chicken there but now its the last affordable place for many workers in the area to grab a quick bite. Call me quirky but I like that kind of urban grit. Not pretty but...
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Nostalgia is the fuel of NIMBYism and by no stretch of the imagination to be related to preservation
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2018, 3:56 AM
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Nostalgia is the fuel of NIMBYism and by no stretch of the imagination to be related to preservation
Right. I get it. But a climbing gym?
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2018, 4:19 AM
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Who cares if they build a climbing gym? Like I don't give a shit...
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Right. I get it. But a climbing gym?
At least it's not some fucking stupid-ass suburban style taco hell shit-box with a goddamn drive-thru sitting in a mother fucking parking lot in the middle of an urban neighborhood.

I'm a form guy. I don't care what they put in the new building as long as it isn't a stupid car-oriented suburban style development inappropriately shoe-horned into what should otherwise be a proper urban environment.

I won't personally ever use the climbing gym, but from an urban form perspective, the replacement building is ~8 billion times better. And form is ultimately what matters because uses come and go all the time.
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My annoyance at the aesthetics of big development on the south side of Addison aside I think the built environment around the park is dramatically improved. Better restaurants, a hotel, and more commercial uses that could enliven the area year round are welcome additions.
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What Wrigleyville needs more than anything is wider sidewalks....
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What Wrigleyville needs more than anything is wider sidewalks....
Were I the dictator of Chicago I'd close Clark to private traffic between Newport and Waveland on game days. Busses and bikes only, let pedestrians overflow into parking lanes.
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Right. I get it. But a climbing gym?
I love climbing gyms. Makes working out not such a bore!
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At least it's not some fucking stupid-ass suburban style taco hell shit-box with a goddamn drive-thru sitting in a mother fucking parking lot in the middle of an urban neighborhood.

I'm a form guy. I don't care what they put in the new building as long as it isn't a stupid car-oriented suburban style development inappropriately shoe-horned into what should otherwise be a proper urban environment.

I won't personally ever use the climbing gym, but from an urban form perspective, the replacement building is ~8 billion times better. And form is ultimately what matters because uses come and go all the time.
........ok, now let's not sugar coat things too much !
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 2:44 PM
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What Wrigleyville needs more than anything is wider sidewalks....
100%. Why is Clark Street so narrow?
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 4:18 PM
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Oh this is soooooo awful, whatever shall we do??? What a disgrace that the Taco Bell drive thru is being replaced by a properly planned 3 story building. Wrigleyville is truly done for now, no wonder we didn't get HQ2!
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^The design has become a little less interesting since that rendering, but still overall way better than the Taco Bell. Also, the climbing gym is mainly on the second and third floors; the first floor has other retail (no named tenants as far as I know). So maybe you will get your fast food chains after all.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM
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Yeah but will it have a drive thru? If no drive thru how can we call Chicago a world class A+ alpha Master race of cities city?
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That climbing gym doesn't look like its tall enough to have anything worth climbing inside.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 8:28 PM
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Any progress on the annex? Last I saw, they torn down that captain restaurant.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 10:31 PM
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Any progress on the annex? Last I saw, they torn down that captain restaurant.
Yup. Just had brunch at Dutch and Doc's this morning and walking back east there is a good bit of activity on site. Hard to tell exactly what because the construction fences and tarps hide it but they were going full on.

And just a side note, my friends and I were remarking how the exact location where we were having a lovely, fancy pants brunch was a suburban McDonald's parking lot across from a donut shack and a car wash just a few years back. Nobody misses that shit. Nobody.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 10:38 PM
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^^^ I thought for sure you would have been having a conversation about how the neighborhood has gone to shit....
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