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^ Midtown East could eclipse the Hudson Yards when we talk about height. 1Vandy is already a whopping 1,515 feet. And 335 Madison Ave is making claims to go even taller ...

Some cool renderings of 111W57th:

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Aren't 22 thames and 125 Greenwich the same project? They also forgot 80 South Street. And since when was Nordstrom 1775' to the roof? I mean that would be awesome though.

They need to hire a better diagram drawer

In any case NYC will have more supertall residential buildings than many cities have skyscrapers, that's just insane
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I think they did that to keep the diagram upwards slope even. Would look odd with such height differences in terms of spacing. More of a visual touch to the diagram. But nevertheless, the heights are what distinguish the towers.

With 30 + supertalls in the pipeline, its getting intense.
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Some potentially good news if it happens. News Corp is thinking about moving its offices to the new WTC2. If they become a tenant, we may finally see WTC2 rise. The thread is locked so I'll post it here unless a mod moves this post or something to the correct thread.

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News Corp. and 21st Century Fox Consider Move to World Trade Center Site, Officials Say



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News Corporation and 21st Century Fox, two giant media companies controlled by Rupert Murdoch, are considering building a joint headquarters in a new 88-story skyscraper at the World Trade Center, real estate and government officials said this week.

If a deal is struck, the move by the companies from Midtown Manhattan to a new tower downtown would complete the rebuilding of the office complex destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001. It would also solidify the transformation of Lower Manhattan into a technology and media hub and a lively residential community.

The companies, which include Fox News Channel and The Wall Street Journal, have been in discussions for months with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the developer Larry Silverstein, who has the rights to build the fourth and last office tower at the site, known as 2 World Trade Center, according to the real estate and government officials, who asked not to be identified because the deal had not been finalized.

“This move would establish media hegemony in Lower Manhattan,” said Mitchell Moss, professor of urban planning at New York University. “News Corp. and Fox are in everyone’s living room. It removes any uncertainty that the new trade center would be a major economic engine, and it validates the 15-year effort to rebuild the World Trade Center.”

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^ Yes, I just read the article on NYT. Sure sounds promising!! 2015 could be an epic year ...

The base could see some revisions ...

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News Corporation and 21st Century Fox would require a substantial revision to the long planned 2 World Trade Center, at the corner of Vesey and Greenwich Streets, which was designed by the British architect Norman Foster. The companies want the base of what is now a cruciform-shaped tower with a diamond crown to accommodate television studios.
Hopefully the diamonds will stay and there won't be a height cut.
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Hopefully the diamonds will stay and there won't be a height cut.
Oh my God, don't even say that, I would probably cry

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Slight height re: 30 Hudson Yards: from once 1,337' (408m) to 1268'5'' (386m). It certainly is tall, but 30 HY is not a signature tower. Here's hoping Tishman will deliver.
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3 Manhattan West is U/C! 662ft/202m.
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Posted this in the highrise thread but its relevant to general NYC stats:

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Emporis updated their stats: (Impressed too as they got many previously not listed high rises)

1) 152 skyscrapers / high rises u/c
2) 176 ... / ... planned
3) 6792 high rises/skyscrapers existing

Currently Existing:

1) 6003 highrises (Based on the definition and range of height)

AND

2) 789 Skyscrapers (Based on definition of skyscraper and range of height)

Total: 6792 highrises and skyscrapers

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Edit: Added extra cities to get an idea ::

Jersey City: 184 high rises and skyscrapers
Newark: 163 ... and ....
Hoboken: 41
Guttenberg: 4
Fort Lee: 38
Union City: 10
West New York: 14
Edgewater: 6
Fairview: 2
Elizabeth: 26
Yonkers: 51

t(NYC + satellites) = 7280 skyscrapers/high rises *

* High Rises comprising most of the numbers, especially for the Gold Coast. Does not include planned or u/c, this is for existing.

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^ Nice stats although I wonder why there are missing a couple of supertalls and skyscraper which are U/C ...

EDIT: I got it, for the 20 tallest buildings only completed and T/O are listed. Btw one sill can't access the other categories ...
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They made some good progress. Better than it was 4 months ago.

Catagories they made for members. "Emporis research". But the longer way to do it is to go to the full list that anybody can access and scroll based on the height.
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They made some good progress. Better than it was 4 months ago.

Catagories they made for members. "Emporis research". But the longer way to do it is to go to the full list that anybody can access and scroll based on the height.
Yep, was just about to mention that ... you have to scroll through the whole list. I noticed they have some outdated figures (f.e. for Nordstrom and Steinway). Or some a are just wrong, f.e. 220 CPS is listed as 314m (that was an error on the DOB application iirc) and 10 HY as 310m (old height).

But yes, I'm nitpicking. Pretty glad they updated their highrise figures.

EDIT: every day you learn something new ... didn't know about this tower!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_New_York_Place
http://www.emporis.com/buildings/169...rk-city-ny-usa

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1 New York Place was a supertall skyscraper that was proposed in 2002 to rise 1,050 feet (320 m) tall and have 90 floors. The tower was supposed to be located in New York City's financial district at Broadway and Fulton Street, but the project was canceled.[2]

The tower was designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox and projected to cost USD $680 million. It would have had 1.3 million square feet (121,000 square meter) of floor space. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority would have been a partner with their proposed transit hub at the location.[1]
Pity it got canceled, would have been pretty epic.
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New renderings for Nordstrom have surfaced ... http://www.yimbynews.com/2015/04/rev...-building.html









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From left to right: 220 CPS (950'), Nordstrom (1,775'), One57 (1,004'), Steinway (1,428') and Verre (1,050').
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- 35 Hudson Yards (E-Tower) got a 30ft / 9m height bump! Now 1,039ft / 317m.

- 281 5th Ave is now 705ft / 215m.
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Another midtown project could reach the heavens, God willing
May 3, 2015
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A church on West 57th Street will soon decide whether it will sell its sanctuary and 197-room hotel to a developer who could erect yet another super-tall luxury tower on a single block—further transforming the city's skyline.

A sale of the Calvary Baptist Church and the Salisbury Hotel at 123 W. 57th St. would add a sizable piece to Extell Development's years-long effort to amass a number of contiguous properties there, and would allow it to potentially build a third high-rise on the same block as its 1,000-foot-tall One57 and the 1,400-foot-tall Steinway Tower being built by JDS Development.


Extell's plans have not been made public, but observers believe the collection of parcels could permit a project similar in scale to its 75-story One57 a few doors down. The potential sale has community leaders up in arms over real estate laws that allow developers to stockpile development rights and erect super-tall buildings without public input.

The church, meanwhile, is consulting with its congregants and a higher authority to determine how it might part with an asset believed to be worth more than $100 million.

"We look forward to a year in which God guides us through the challenges of everyday service, and brings a conclusion to our journey through the land of redevelopment and building study," John Clenance, chair of Calvary Baptist's Board of Deacons, wrote in a year-end report posted on the church's website.

A vote on the sale—prompted by rising maintenance costs, the economics of running a hotel and a dwindling capital fund—is expected by year's end, according to a January bulletin to church members that was obtained by Crain's.

Representatives from Extell, Calvary Baptist Church and the Salisbury Hotel declined to comment.

Though Extell has already bought several adjoining properties, the footprint of any future project could be doubled by a green light from the congregation, which is considering a number of options. Many in the community believe the most likely course would be a sale to the developer, which would demolish the structures and include a new and bigger sanctuary in whatever takes their place. Alternatively, the church could allow Extell to tear down the hotel but preserve the sanctuary, which occupies only the lower floors in one of the two buildings at 123 W. 57th St. Doing so, however, would trigger building-code requirements that would force the congregation to reduce the number of church seats to 600 from 800, according to the bulletin.

If the church decides not to sell but instead reposition the hotel, its verdict would probably stymie Extell's carefully laid plans for the block.

Extell, led by Gary Barnett, is known for assembling properties over a long period of time to combine into a single, large development site. On this particular West 57th Street block, the company already has purchased three other buildings surrounding the church and is currently negotiating buyouts with rent-regulated tenants, Crain's has learned. Some of the units in 134 W. 58th St. also serve as graduate housing for students at Fordham University, according to the school's website.

If Extell were to tear down the church, the hotel and the three buildings, a structure of at least 325,000 square feet could be built there, according to a rough estimate based on city zoning documents and not accounting for any zoning bonuses offered for the inclusion of affordable housing or improvements to nearby subway stations.

But many organizations, including the Municipal Art Society, believe that Mr. Barnett has extra development rights left over from the planning of Extell's 430,000-square-foot One57 project, which could be transferred to whatever the firm might be planning for the church site.

Members of Community Board 5, which represents midtown, oppose the way super-tall towers are being developed in the area around One57, which will soon count as its neighbors a 950-foot building being developed by Vornado and another Extell project, the 1,400-foot Nordstrom Tower.

But there is not much they can do. Mr. Barnett has been simply shifting around the total amount of square feet that is already allowed on the block, and not actually adding any density, meaning he could build another tower without public approvals.
A 1,200 footer would look great here, adding some variety in height.
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Wow! 1200' would be good but I wonder if he would try and top Nordstrom? I doubt it but that would be awesome.

PS. I guess Nordstrom being "1400'" in the article is just an estimation and there wasn't actually a height cut, I hope.
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Wow! 1200' would be good but I wonder if he would try and top Nordstrom? I doubt it but that would be awesome.

PS. I guess Nordstrom being "1400'" in the article is just an estimation and there wasn't actually a height cut, I hope.
I don't think 123W57 will top Nordstrom (which of course is not 1,400' but more like 1,500' - I hate when articles don't get their facts straight), but it will certainly eclipse One57.

Anyway, it's certainly encouraging news. Although Extell has some bad traits (like not delivering renderings), Barnett has proven that he doesn't mess around.
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