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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 8:20 PM
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Like the new fonts. VG's map (HY one) though has a broken link. I think imgur must of dropped the file.

Current version being: http://i.imgur.com/FVrYwpy.jpg

That code with the image brackets will work. Couple of deviations with the previous one preceding the .jpg.

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Old Posted Sep 11, 2015, 10:21 PM
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New renderings for 125 Greenwich have surfaced, most likely not final. Looks like 1,100' roof and 1,400' spire. The design is pretty hideous though.

http://www.6sqft.com/new-renderings-...edium=webfeeds





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Not only did Vinoly win the Carbunle Prize for the worst building in the UK with the Walkie Talkie (london), he's proceeded to design this mess and the banal 432 Park. A poor architect recently and one who shouldn't be allowed to desecrate more and more cities with his eyesores.
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Would be interesting to see a list of which companies are currently looking for office spaces of at least 400K sqft in New York.
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The renovation of 666 5th is going to remove another >1msf from the market too.
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2015, 8:36 PM
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Eeewwww thats freaking hideous looking, both of the renders.
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Old Posted Sep 12, 2015, 9:17 PM
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You can relax since neither one is going to be built, but I do agree that those designs are really rancid, among the worst that I have seen including those Sam Chang or Kaufmann budget hotels.
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Looks terrible; something you'd expect to be rising in some giant Chinese city that most people have never heard of (meanwhile in reality they get some beauties like Shanghai tower and Ping An Financial Centre; along with a lot of atrocious towers like the above rendering).
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There's ongoing demolition at 1 Vanderbilt and I'm thinking the tower will be going vertical within a year.

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More office supertalls or near-supertalls are likely in the future. We all know that, but just to get an idea that the boom is not enough. More supply is needed!

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New York needs much more than 20 million square feet over the next four years

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Manhattan is seeing a boom in office-space construction, the New York Building Congress reported recently. The organization projects just under 20 million square feet will be added between this year and 2018.

Sounds good? No, it is not enough. That is an important issue to understand as the de Blasio administration begins the process of winning approval for a major rezoning of the midtown east corridor to encourage new construction.

Let's start with another number: 450 million, which is the total amount of office space in Manhattan. That would make the 2015-2018 increase about 4%, which means only 1% a year and a number that reflects the once-in-forever rebuilding of the World Trade Center site and the sustainable rate is much less than that.

In the meantime, the economy is booming, and the need to accommodate new workers is growing.
Consider that in 2012, Cushman & Wakefield projected the city would need 92 million additional square feet by 2040, or around 3.3 million square feet a year. Two years ago, the Independent Budget Office put the need at 52 million square feet in a report evaluating the Bloomberg administration's plan to rezone midtown east. As a result, the IBO assured the council, new buildings in midtown east wouldn't lead to a surplus or derail leasing at the World Trade Center site or Hudson Yards.

In either case, growth is only a part of this story. The city's office infrastructure is aging and becoming unattractive and uneconomic. The average age of office buildings in midtown east is 70 years old. No one seems to have a similar figure for all of Manhattan, but it probably isn't that much lower. (Let me know if you have that number).

True, as you read this you may be doing so in a cubicle or open office environment with much less personal space than you ever had before, which some people speculate will reduce the demand for office space. Others believe the growth in employment will be primarily in work-at-home or group collaborations. There is also a mini-boom taking place in Long Island City and a burst of activity in Brooklyn.

More to the point are the decisions big companies have made to relocate to new, state-of-the-art office towers: Coach, SAP and the law firm Boies Schiller & Flexner are headed to Hudson Yards; News Corp. will likely move to the World Trade Center; and TD Bank will anchor SL Green's planned Vanderbilt Tower near Grand Central Terminal.
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Thats amazing news. Along with these new sliver towers we can get some real behemoths!
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Just for fun, 85 buildings over 200 meters TO, U/C or completed, this year we are likely to see the following added to the U/C list, and who knows what else:

Two WTC
1 Vanderbilt
520 West 41st
125 Greenwich
Girasole
80 South St
520 5th
29-37 41st Ave
3-7 West 29th St
111 Murray St
90-94 Fulton Street
138 East 50th Street
15 E. 30th St
12 East 37th Street
281 5th Ave
One Seaport Residences
242 W. 52nd St (Roseland)
145 East 60th St
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2015, 10:01 AM
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Regarding the firms seeking office space, I found this:

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Since then, Time warner (30 HY), L'Oréal (10 HY) and NewsCorp (2 WTC) have already committed or signed leters of intent, but there are also much bigger potential tenants on the market such as JP Morgan Chase (seeking 4M square feet) than there were 3 years ago.
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^ The boom sure will last for another couple of years.

SHoP's facade mockup of 111W57 aka Steinway:

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^Thought that was a render until I scrolled down!
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Give it time, and a better economy and I wouldn't be surprised if proposals higher than the WTC, 432 and Sears emerge.

Dubai nearly collapsed because of the building bubble, there were a few 1600 footers cancelled because of it there.
Yes you are right. While building a tall skyscraper it is equally important to see whether the proposed height is even necessary. Simply building tall structures
for the sake of competition is unnecessary waste of capital.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2015, 6:11 AM
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New renderings for 125 Greenwich have surfaced, most likely not final. Looks like 1,100' roof and 1,400' spire. The design is pretty hideous though.

http://www.6sqft.com/new-renderings-...edium=webfeeds





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Pretty interesting.I often wonder what could be the technique being used nowadays for efficient construction of such unique, tall buildings .Like I have heard about the slip form technique but has there been some new technique or technology developed lately that make construction of such unique high rise structures much more efficient.
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A simple answer? Both steel and concrete have gotten stronger over the years.

Slightly more complex answer? Materials haven't really gotten stronger, but the higher grades of steel and concrete have become more economical compared to the past. 36ksi steel used to be the norm, and 50ksi was considered high strength, to be used sparingly or for high profile projects like the original WTC. Now 50ksi steel is normal, and 70 or 80ksi is considered high strength. Note that even 200ksi steel was available decades ago, but it's only for cabling, not beams. It will be nice when the day finally comes when we can use 100 or 150ksi beams.

As for concrete, high strength mixes have been available for a while, but were temperamental to use. Newer mixes are easier to work with, thanks to the recent development of new super plasticizer admixtures that allow self consolidating mixes that flow much better into forms and around reinforcement, without requiring extra labor intensive vibration. Rebar can also be placed closer together so the structure size can be reduced. If it's easier to work with, it's cheaper.

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Without doubt the invention of polycarboxylate-based superplasticizers is one of the most important admixture discoveries in recent years. They offered enormous advantages when compared to existing products, but they can come with extra baggage too, as discussed earlier. Fortunately, during the time they've been marketed they have undergone continuous refinement because they are based on engineered molecules. The refinements include extending working time and more consistent results wherever they are used. They are the admixtures that makes SCC possible.
http://www.concreteconstruction.net/...and-scc_2.aspx

Perhaps most importantly though, is the booming real estate market covering the height premium.
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2015, 3:38 PM
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45 Park Place (667') rendering:


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Old Posted Sep 26, 2015, 12:58 PM
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Something is going on @340 Flatbush Ave!!

https://instagram.com/p/8Bl8puSZJi/

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That view... 340 FAE/9 Dekalb coming soon. #340FAE #jdsconstruction #9dekalb #brooklyn

Those views! Looks like ~1,300ft+!

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