[Burnaby] Southgate City | U/C & Proposed - Page 5

FarmerHaight · #81 Posted **Aug 24, 2021, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

Ultimately, Brentwood, Metrotown, Lougheed, Burquitlam, Edmonds and downtown New West will become one large high-density conurbation. The region will look very impressive.

We will all be dead before those distinct commercial centres are even close to "one large high-density" conurbation.

Brentwood to Metrotown, and Metrowtown to Edmonds are both 4 km. The entire stretch is single family homes and parks (along Willingdon) or strip malls and auto shops (along Kingsway). The existing plan to densify Metrotown has an 80-year timeline, and that plan has a hard border at Royal Oak. When I bike from Metrotown to New West, River District, or Burnaby Mountain, it is clear that Burnaby has centuries before the city will have anything more than isolated pockets of high population density.

Vin · #82 Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 7:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by FarmerHaight

We will all be dead before those distinct commercial centres are even close to "one large high-density" conurbation.

Brentwood to Metrotown, and Metrowtown to Edmonds are both 4 km. The entire stretch is single family homes and parks (along Willingdon) or strip malls and auto shops (along Kingsway). The existing plan to densify Metrotown has an 80-year timeline, and that plan has a hard border at Royal Oak. When I bike from Metrotown to New West, River District, or Burnaby Mountain, it is clear that Burnaby has centuries before the city will have anything more than isolated pockets of high population density.

It has to start somewhere. Burnaby has initiated taking that path years ago, and we are beginning to see the result. The first neighbourhoods to join up will likely be Metrotown/Royal Oak. Want to see it? Just be good to yourself and live longer.

FarmerHaight · #83 Posted **Aug 26, 2021, 11:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

It has to start somewhere. Burnaby has initiated taking that path years ago, and we are beginning to see the result. The first neighbourhoods to join up will likely be Metrotown/Royal Oak. Want to see it? Just be good to yourself and live longer.

Royal Oak is a station within the neighborhood of Metrotown

To turn this area:

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...into a conurbation, Burnaby would need a population influx of millions. To equal the West End's 2020 density, this area would need to be home to 1.2 million people. Considering Burnaby's total population was ~240k as of 2016, with an optimistic annual growth rate of 2.5% it would take until 2080 for the entire population of Burnaby to get to 1.2 million.

jasonpark · #84 Posted **Sep 2, 2021, 3:51 AM**

It's honestly scary how to good advertisements are these days. But anyway, apparently, 2nd phase is coming in September.

Spr0ckets · #85 Posted **Sep 2, 2021, 4:03 PM**

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It's honestly scary how to good advertisements are these days. But anyway, apparently, 2nd phase is coming in September.

They have this whole marketing deal down to a formula now, and they have that formula down pat.

You have to respect the hustle.

Lexus · #86 Posted **Sep 6, 2021, 9:45 PM**

2021, September 6

Excavation is underway at South West corner.

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Sheba · #87 Posted **Sep 6, 2021, 11:41 PM**

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2021, September 6

Excavation is underway at South West corner.

Are there any buildings still standing on the site or have they pulled them all down?

Lexus · #88 Posted **Sep 7, 2021, 12:09 AM**

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Are there any buildings still standing on the site or have they pulled them all down?

Almost everything is remaining, including dairy facility.

Lexus · #89 Posted **Sep 9, 2021, 10:58 PM**

2021, September 9

First crane is up

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jasonpark · #90 Posted **Sep 12, 2021, 12:05 AM**

Website for Azure 2 is up:
https://azureatsouthgate.com/azure-2-plans/

Looks like there are two low rises and a highrise for the next phase

Vin · #91 Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 8:26 PM**

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Royal Oak is a station within the neighborhood of Metrotown

Incorrect: Royal Oak belongs to the Marlborough neighbourhood and not Metrotown. They don't even share the same long term master development plans.

FarmerHaight · #92 Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 10:11 PM**

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Incorrect: Royal Oak belongs to the Marlborough neighbourhood and not Metrotown. They don't even share the same long term master development plans.

I mistyped when I wrote that Metrotown is a neighbourhood. It is actually a Regional Town Centre and its community plan encompasses many neighbourhoods including Maywood and Marlborough. Royal Oak is a seperate Urban Village, and does not include any of the Marlborough neighbourhood.

jasonpark · #93 Posted **Oct 3, 2021, 6:38 AM**

I feel like this site needs at least 2-3 developers building at the same time to make this project viable.
Just drawing inspiration from River District, isn't Wesgroup and Polygon building towers at the same time over there?

zahav · #94 Posted **Oct 3, 2021, 9:19 PM**

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I feel like this site needs at least 2-3 developers building at the same time to make this project viable. If ledmac is selling one tower at a time, it'll take longer than 20 years to build.

Just drawing inspiration from River District, isn't Wesgroup and Polygon building towers at the same time over there?

Yes, Polygon was on the Western-most portions, and then Wesgroup on the rest. River District and the neighbouring Fraser Lands also have a lot of new Co-op buildings, probably more than Vancouver has seen in ages. There's a massive one between Kent and Marine just west of Jellicoe, a townhouse co-op on Kent and Jellicoe, and one on Pierview Cres. And then a big affordable rental on Riverwalk Ave. The housing mix of this area is quite interesting, it will be something when the development fills in and connect the different parts.

jasonpark · #95 Posted **Nov 23, 2021, 2:47 AM**

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Yes, Polygon was on the Western-most portions, and then Wesgroup on the rest. River District and the neighbouring Fraser Lands also have a lot of new Co-op buildings, probably more than Vancouver has seen in ages. There's a massive one between Kent and Marine just west of Jellicoe, a townhouse co-op on Kent and Jellicoe, and one on Pierview Cres. And then a big affordable rental on Riverwalk Ave. The housing mix of this area is quite interesting, it will be something when the development fills in and connect the different parts.

Hmmm very interesting. I'm going to assume Ledmac will do the same thing with Marcon their general contractor. Marcon is already building out Cedar Creek for Ledmac right next to Southgate city.

Lexus · #96 Posted **Dec 10, 2021, 7:19 PM**

2021, December 12

Two cranes now.

I spoke to a guy in an orange vest (so the information is 100% legit!), the bout additional 20 acres of land, extending the site to New West 10th Ave, between 18th St and 15Th St, making it total 80 acres.

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hollywoodnorth · #97 Posted **Dec 11, 2021, 4:06 AM**

oh nice thanks for the update from the guy in an orange vest

CondoInvestor · #98 Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 4:03 AM**

is this project selling well?

jasonpark · #99 Posted **Dec 15, 2021, 4:49 PM**

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is this project selling well?

I went to the presentation center last week. Tower 1 is sold out and tower 2 is 70-80% sold out. I think with Brentwood and metrotown hitting $1300 per sqft, a lot of people are being priced out.

jasonpark · #**100** Posted **Dec 28, 2021, 8:59 PM**

Based on the planning submitted to the city. It shows an idea of what phase 1 and 2 will look like over the next 10 years