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Old Posted Sep 8, 2017, 2:51 AM
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I guess I'm not that familiar with the CONRAC project. Could the APM be extended through there without requiring an expensive redesign/reconstruction?
A state senate bill was just introduced to expedite a people mover to downtown Inglewood:
http://sd35.senate.ca.gov/news/2017-...city-inglewood

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SB 789 streamlines the California Environmental Quality Act, known as CEQA, for the Inglewood sports and entertainment project, expedites the Inglewood people-mover project from LA Metro to downtown Inglewood, and preserves existing housing for long-time community members in the Inglewood development areas. This bill was introduced today on the Assembly Floor, where it will be voted on in Assembly policy committee next week.
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^ Wow, this is actually being seriously considered? I like this idea a lot... certainly much easier than branching off the Crenshaw Line.
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That people mover would be different than the LAX people mover, correct? Connecting to Downtown Inglewood station? I have no problem with that.

Edit: that's the other issue with the idea of extending the LAX APM. LAWA, the funder/operator, would have no vested interest in that extension and it would cost them money.
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They *should* have a vested interest in it because the traffic generated by Hollywood Park could make the airport, which is already quite inaccessible, even more so. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
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LAX is experiencing record passenger volume every year so it's clearly not inaccessible. People are not happy accessing it (for good reason), but an Inglewood people mover won't change that, and LAWA is unlikely to be convinced that it is a material interest to them o be the one to provide this service.
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LAX’s elevated rail moves forward with funding for three stations

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^ Technically the contract is only for three "terminal cores" and not the actual APM itself. But, I get your point... it's about damn time.

I'm also looking forward to TBIT getting a facelift:

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Its definitely going to give LAX a more modern and cohesive look.
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^ Technically the contract is only for three "terminal cores" and not the actual APM itself. But, I get your point... it's about damn time.

I'm also looking forward to TBIT getting a facelift:

They should do the rendering with how the traffic really is at LAX:
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Holy Cow!
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They should do the rendering with how the traffic really is at LAX:
The traffic is only that bad because of all of the hotel, rent a car, flyaway, and various other shuttles coming in and out. Once those are gone traffic will be much lighter. Just look at the picture and notice how much space and time those shuttles are taking up.

SFO and LAX are built very similarly and it is a great example of this. Since the SFO people mover was constructed along with their consolidated RAC facilities traffic is very light in their loop. Let’s actually look forward to a lightly trafficked loop
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They should do the rendering with how the traffic really is at LAX:
Holy Smoke, Batman! Too much traffic! Avoid LAX at all the costs.
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LAWA recommends LINXS to design, build, finance, operate and maintain the automated people mover:

https://www.lawa.org/News%20Releases...20Release%2022

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Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA) Board of Airport Commissioners (BOAC) has approved LAX Integrated Express Solutions (LINXS) as the Recommended Developer (RD) and has initiated the first agreement between the parties. The agreement with LINXS sets in motion the path towards full contract approval by BOAC and the Los Angeles City Council in April to design, build, finance, operate and maintain (DBFOM) the Automated People Mover (APM) at LAX.

LINXS' proposal had the highest technical score and the lowest cost proposal of the three teams that participated in the procurement process. LAWA will present a 30-year contract valued at approximately $4.5billion to the BOAC and City Council for approval. The contract includes milestone payments for the design and construction phases, as well as authorizes future payments for operating and maintaining the APM for the contract period.

“Los Angeles relies on LAX to power our economy forward — that’s why we’re making historic investments to ensure it remains one of the most passenger-friendly airports in the world,” said Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti. “Today’s recommendation brings us one step closer to a people mover that will provide Angelenos and travelers from everywhere with reliable, convenient transportation to and from the terminals.”
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New fly-through video posted yesterday shows the new flat roof design.

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The traffic is only that bad because of all of the hotel, rent a car, flyaway, and various other shuttles coming in and out. Once those are gone traffic will be much lighter. Just look at the picture and notice how much space and time those shuttles are taking up.
In addition to all of that, the people mover project will establish two new pick-up/drop-off areas at the Intermodal Transportation Facilities. There will also be a Metro Rail connection, the full benefit of which won't be immediately realized.

I still think traffic within the CTA will be congested, but the removal of all the car rental, hotel, tour, and FlyAway buses will make a noticeable difference.
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Keeping the LAX progress train moving, I found some renderings of Delta's terminal improvement plans:













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Reposting from the LA Transportation thread:

The details of the proposed P3 for the LAX people mover are available here:
http://lawa.granicus.com/MetaViewer....&meta_id=32885

The project's capital cost is estimated to be $1.95 billion, but the proposed P3 contract is $4.5 billion over 30 years. It is a design-build-finance-operate-maintain (DBFOM) contract. The private contractor, LINXS, is actually a group of several companies, split up between design, construction and operation teams. I think there are like 10 total companies listed on their website: http://www.lalinxs.com/team.html

During the 5 years of construction, LAX will pay LINXS $1 billion, while LINXS will pay for the $950 million (or more) additional construction costs.

For the next 25 years, LINXS will operate the people mover, and LAX will pay LINXS a fee per year to cover the current operation, maintenance and past construction/financing costs. The first year will be a $97 million payment (will increase in later years based on a schedule and with inflation).

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The LINXS Team's proposed costs for Design and Construction are $1.95 billion, which is approximately 4% below staff's estimate.
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The LINXS Team will be responsible for the operations and maintenance (O&M) of the APM System for a period of 25 years. This includes:
The APM Operating System (i.e. trains, controls systems, etc.)
The Fixed Facilities (i.e. guideway, stations; including elevators, escalators, etc.)
The O&M requirements include refurbishment and replacement schedules for portions of the system.
At the end of the 25 year O&M period the LINXS Team is required to hand the APM System back with a minimum of five-years remaining life. The condition at handback will be determined by an independent engineer.
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The DBFOM Agreement that will be the primary contractual agreement between the LINXS Team and LAWA includes the total costs for design and construction, operations and maintenance (O&M), and the finance costs associated with the developer portion of the capital costs of construction. Over the 30-year term of the DBFOM Agreement these costs will total approximately $4.5 billion. These costs are consistent with the costs LAWA would incur for the independent elements of the DBFOM Agreement (cost of construction, 25-years of O&M, finance costs).

During the construction period, LAWA will pay the developer a total of $1 billion in milestone payments, spread out in equal installments. Following the completion of the project, LAWA will pay the developer annual availability payments (in equal monthly installments) to compensate the developer for principal, interest and financing costs of the project as well as annual operating and maintenance costs over the 25 year operating life of the contract. The initial annual availability payment is estimated at approximately $97 million, and will increase annually, based on structured increases and adjustment inflation indexes. The initial payment is subject to adjustment based on the actual financing cost incurred by the developer at financial close.

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