Is Art Deco dead? What's the latest/last Art Deco project? - Page 5

THE BIG APPLE · #81 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:31 PM**

Another great Pelli building is the Carnegie Hall Tower. It moreover copies Carnegie Hall's Italian Renaissance Revival, but it evokes ALOT of Art-Deco, the top, and the decorations on the bottom.

THE BIG APPLE · #82 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:32 PM**

Chicago Tile and Trust Building (1992)

THE BIG APPLE · #83 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:35 PM**

Bell Atlantic Tower (Philadelphia) built in 1991. In my opinion the late 80's/early 90's express alot of sadness, in architecture. In this time period MANY buildings tried to copy the Art Deco from the 20's and 30's, and some succeeded. i think it was at this time period that people saw what had become of their cities in the 50's-80's, and tried to fix it.

THE BIG APPLE · #84 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:38 PM**

The Franklin Center in Chicago built in 1989.

THE BIG APPLE · #85 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:40 PM**

The Heller International Building in Chicago along with the Franklin center (above) are PURE 100% Art Deco. It doesn't get ANY better than this.

THE BIG APPLE · #86 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:42 PM**

190 South LaSalle Street in Chicago. Chicago is the best city in the US in terms of doing modern Art Deco architecture good. NYC is a close second.

THE BIG APPLE · #87 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:44 PM**

Another Chicago building 55 East Erie Street

THE BIG APPLE · #88 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:45 PM**

Chicago Place built in 1991.

THE BIG APPLE · #89 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:51 PM**

Park Tower in Chicago, built 2000.

THE BIG APPLE · #90 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:55 PM**

One Park Place in Houston built in 2009.

Jasoncw · #91 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:55 PM**

The Big Apple, all of those are postmodern buildings. Even though some of those postmodern buildings reference some common art deco features, they are still postmodern buildings, and postmodernism is very distinct from Art Deco.

First of all, art deco died, and the historical and cultural conditions which created it no longer exist, or they exist in a way that they no longer result in art deco.

So today, only "Neo-Art Deco" or "Art Deco Revival" (or some other similar term) can be built today. The Smith Center in Las Vegas which Vandelay posted today is an example of this, because it was designed to look as if it were designed in the late 20s/early 30s, rather than just being influenced by it, or borrowing elements from it.

Directly copying the past (the revivals) are different from postmodernism. A postmodernist architect could have many reasons for incorporating art deco elements into their designs.

One reason could be that, in American pop culture the skyscraper is associated with art deco, and they might borrow this imagery or iconography for their own skyscraper project. An especially artsy postmodernist could possibly include King Kong climbing it on a drawing to tap into that even more.

Another reason might be that there are art deco buildings nearby and the architect is trying to make a connection between them.

And there are other reasons too, but none of the reasons are because the architect thinks there should be more art deco buildings in the world. If that's what they wanted they would have just designed an art deco revival building, instead of only referencing certain elements.

THE BIG APPLE · #92 Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 10:01 PM**

I know they are post modern. I even stated it one top of some of the pics. But if you put the best building out of that entire bunch, and put it side by side with and art deco building i wouldn't be able to tell the difference (well maybe I would), but a non skyscraper fanatic wouldn't. Many of those buildings like Heller International Building or the Franklin Center (both in Chicago) are 100% Art Deco. Toronto still has some buildings in the form. But the only reason they don't call these buildings Art Deco (and call them Post Modern) is because (as you stated) the form died out a long time ago. BUT that doesn't mean it doesn't inspire buildings to this DAY.

Nowhereman1280 · #93 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 3:33 PM**

^^^ The Franklin Center is not 100% Art Deco, not even close. It's got deco massing, but the similarities end there. When is the last time you saw a Deco building clad in pink granite?

Also 190 S. LaSalle isn't deco at all, not in the least. It doesn't have deco massing and has gothic detailing. The massing is literally just straight up, deco is defined by subtle setbacks creating a tapering and towering shaft. The 190 S LaSalle building was built as a blatant reference to one of the earliest skyscraper in Chicago which was built 30 years before the first deco buildings started going up and was torn down before the deco period even ended. This building is the Chicago Masonic Temple and it was an example of the first Chicago School of Architecture which is it's own distinct style/group of styles.

Chicago Masonic Temple (1892-1939):

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See the similarity between 190 and the Masonic Temple?

vid · #94 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 4:52 PM**

Carnegie Hall Tower isn't art deco either. It's got tripartite massing and a cornice. It's clearly influenced by Neo-Classical and Chicago School.

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Nowhereman1280 · #96 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 7:49 PM**

Don't know if this counts, but they rebuilt the theater in Cedarburg, WI to return it to the original design from the 30's. So this is new deco, but based on past designs:

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DecoJim · #97 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 8:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Don't know if this counts, but they rebuilt the theater in Cedarburg, WI to return it to the original design from the 30's. So this is new deco, but based on past designs:

So this was a ground up recreation or when you say "rebuilt" did they remove the a modernized facade and replace it with the art deco recreation?
I wonder if they used Vitrolite in this recreation, it certainly is intended to give the look of Vitrolite. Hopefully they used a more long lasting substance since Vitrolite tended to break fairly easily. Imagine try to sell a product that was billed as "structural glass"!

By the way, thanks NowHereman for taking The Big Apple to task. I was afraid this topic was going to be filled up with every post-modern building that happened to have a setback or single zigzag.

Trueviking: I bet that casino looks quite authentic when it and its metal palm trees are covered with snow 5 months out of each year!

jg6544 · #98 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 8:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by vandelay

Art Deco lives. The Smith Center in Las Vegas is going to open next month:

The tower is a near-identical copy of the Will Rogers tower at the Ft. Worth fat stock show auditorium.

Patrick · #99 Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE

Another Chicago building 55 East Erie Street

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THE BIG APPLE · #**100** Posted **Feb 20, 2012, 9:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by vid

Carnegie Hall Tower isn't art deco either. It's got tripartite massing and a cornice. It's clearly influenced by Neo-Classical and Chicago School.

It's more Renaissance Revival (as I stated), BUT it has art deco INFLUENCES.

And is EVERYONE seriously saying that a building like the World Wide Plaza, deserves to be in the SAME category (Post Modern) as the Bank of America Tower (NYC). NO.