JERSEY CITY | Projects and Construction thread

[citybooster]

Originally Posted by CIA

After Urby II and III is complete. Harborside Plaza 8 and 9 may be next up for Mack Cali, and they received a big boost thanks to no small part of Urby's wildly successful leasing. These projects are still probably a decade away, but the redevelopment plan allows for a density transfer of up to 300 units per acre from the Harborside Terminal to any site within the redevelopment plan. There is a height limit for the area, but it's based on set backs and not a fixed height.

Something to watch as time goes on

I think it will be far less than a decade if we can get Urby2 and 3(and aren't they supposed to go up together?)started up by next year... maybe 2021, 2022 if they sell just as briskly. But it will take awhile.... exciting though times!

I'm also on the watch for a previously unsung area of development... the West Side and Route 440 area... whoever winds up developing Bayside likely won't be known until bids are done in the fall but the area around it is starting to take shape. Construction of the college dorm on the NJCU project plus another part of that project up to the third floor level around West Side/ Stegman Ave. Another five story building being developed at the old Mac Video site with room next lot for another. 181-191 Culver being re-designed into a midrise(CIA, have any more info on the recent events regarding that development?)

Downtown and Journal Square are higher profile but also important area areas like Bergen-Lafayette which have been touched on and less publicized areas such as Greenville, West Side, Marion and the Heights. I just hope for a little more info on the less prominently discussed areas. If I can I'll gladly contribute where I can.

[Hamilton]

City lost the case against the HAP tower on Summit. They said they'll appeal to the NJ Supreme Court (the Supreme Court's decision would be final and can't be appealed to any other court). Only 10% of appellants are granted a hearing by the NJ Supreme Court, so the odds don't look good for the city.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...rt_river_index

Originally Posted by citybooster

181-191 Culver being re-designed into a midrise

All that we know at the moment is that the city is in the process of rezoning this lot, which is empty, from R1 (one/two-family residential) to midrise as part of the Culver redevelopment plan. No designs have been revealed or finalized yet. First they just need the proper zoning.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by citybooster

I think it will be far less than a decade if we can get Urby2 and 3(and aren't they supposed to go up together?)started up by next year... maybe 2021, 2022 if they sell just as briskly. But it will take awhile.... exciting though times!

Might be sooner. Dependent on sales. Phase 2 will start once X% of sales are reached on Phase 1. Same idea with Phase 3, when X% of sales target is reached for Phase II.

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by CIA

Wait... did Jersey City LOSE people last year??

2015: 264,290
2016: 264,152

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/ta...215/3436000,00

150ish people is close enough to any conceivable margin of error on these things that it's much more accurate to say the population stayed flat.

[chris08876]

Project: 854 Jersey Avenue

Site:

Midtown-based LeFrak Organization is planning a 10-story, 119-unit mixed-use building at 854 Jersey Avenue, located on the corner of 18th Street in the northern end of downtown Jersey City. The project would include 14,000 square feet of commercial space on the ground floor, followed by 119 residential units on the floors above.

The project was “approved with conditions” on May 30th, Jersey Digs reported. The 1.6255-acre property is currently occupied by a gas station. A construction timeline has not been disclosed.

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[Hamilton]

CIA, it's more accurate to say that the Census's estimate declined year-over-year. But they don't think the population actually declined, they just revised their 2015 estimate downwards as well. The census now thinks there were 263,868 people in 2015 and 264,152 people in 2017, a gain of almost 300.

I think they're way underestimating the growth, but that may be because they overestimated the growth in the 2010-2014 period.

https://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/t...20000US3436000

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by CIA

659 Grove Street
Construct 10-story new mixed-use residential building with 139 dwelling units, 12,500 sq. ft. of commercial space.

Rendering:


Credit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-shoshan-68aa8110/

[dc_denizen]

from WTC...

Untitled by dc_denizen, on Flickr

[C.]

15. Case: P16-118 Preliminary/Final Major Site Plan Approval for Phase I
Preliminary Major Site Plan Approval for Phase 2
Applicant: Journal Square Ramp, LLC
Review Planner: Tanya Marione
Attorney: Francis X. Regan, Esq.
Address: 808 Pavonia Ave
Block: 9404/10601 Lot: 34, 35, and 41/38,39
Zone: Journal Square 2060 Redevelopment Plan – Zone 10
Description: Redevelopment of a property that currently contains an existing 650 space parking deck
multi-phase project consisting of 2 residential buildings (51 and 57 stories) with 1,189
units, 7,300 sq ft of retail, 970 parking spaces above and underground, theater, art gallery,
residential amenities, public and private open space

Zzz...

I wish this proposal was more bold. 7,300 sq ft of retail? That's it?

[C.]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

from WTC...

Untitled by dc_denizen, on Flickr

JC could really use some more mid-rises to bulk up the skyline and a couple signature buildings with a spire or crown. Ellipse turned out fantastic.

[C.]

Both towers for 808 Pavonia are approved and over 600ft.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=227400

[C.]

https://jerseydigs.com/jersey-city-d...-harbor-north/

A 1,000 unit development coming to Liberty Harbor North. (Funny, I read the JCRA June agenda twice yet somehow missed this one. lol)

This is Block 17 in the Liberty Harbor North redevelopment plan, which allows up to 1,000 units. So no amendment is needed for the density. The plans allows for twin towers up to a maximum height of 45 floors, plus a crown. There is also a few sizable midrise buildings ranging from 8 floors to 16 floors (??) that act as a base to the towers. The south portion of the site (the 16 floor (?) building) is to house civic activities in the bottom 3 floors (think school, library, arts theater etc.)


http://data.jerseycitynj.gov/dataset...ess-051315.pdf pg. 32

[C.]

Ah, Jersey Digs pulled their information from a 2015 agenda. So that gave me an idea to look at other things planned back then that should be up for action next month. It worked!

12-story building planned for 682 Route 440 on the West Side.

A baby 101 Newkirk was alive back then, proposed as a 21-story building. It has since grown in size to at least 50 floors.

And the money shot...

"North River Development, LLC presenting on the construction of a mixed use project consisting of a luxury hotel, marina, 2 million SF of commercial space and several acres of open passive park space on new piers on Agency owned land on Block 11603, Lot 7. The project is located on thirty acres of underwater land within the Harsimus Cove Redevelopment Area."

LOLWUT?

[202_Cyclist]

Not trying to get in a debate about this-- just re-posting the article for reference.

Jersey City is a case study in the perils of politics and real estate for the Kushners
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...017-story.html

[C.]

New Development Maps are out. Nothing new, really.

http://data.jerseycitynj.gov/dataset...nts-7.6.17.pdf

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by CIA

New Development Maps are out. Nothing new, really.

http://data.jerseycitynj.gov/dataset...nts-7.6.17.pdf

Great. Nice update to the map. On the NY highrise directory, last one was in August 2015. Will update it there as well.

[C.]

Source: https://www.6sqft.com/perkins-eastma...uilding-in-nj/


Source: http://www.jcvillage.org/2017-meeting-july/

[C.]

There's some interesting conceptual and current projects found on this website: http://www.mvarchitecture.com/

There's one for a five tower development overlooking the Palisades near 16th Avenue, just north of Jersey City Heights.

[Hamilton]

Powerhouse Arts District NIMBYs not happy about latest changes to phase 2 of Hudson Exchange West...basically the developer wants to move the tower closer to 4th St by a few feet. Seems like much ado about nothing to me:

http://www.padnajc.org/harsimus-cove...s-august-16th/




The changes are highlighted in purple in this rendering:



Here is a before-and-after of the change.

[C.]

Hamilton, agreed. I really hate to admit this, but the NIMBYs made one good point: there should be more time for review and comment on the change. It's a bit of a moot point because it would be more manipulative BS to stir up the community. For example, they're presenting the potential massing as the building envelope. This is not a 60-story tower, it will be 35 floors. The propose change has no impact to density of the site.

I personally like high rise towers to setback as they rise from a 5 or 6-story base. Like the buildings that arose after the introduction of the 1916 zoning code for NYC. The current design or new one really doesn't do it for me either way.