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Old Posted Apr 8, 2006, 5:25 PM
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Congratulations John Saca. You're the man.
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I'll second that one...
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So, I finally opened up paint and made my own picture...

What if Saca put it all to one side...



108 stories, 1200+ feet... muhaha
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So, I finally opened up paint and made my own picture...

What if Saca put it all to one side...



108 stories, 1200+ feet... muhaha

Well at least you would be able to check how far traffic is backed up at the approach to the Bay Bridge, or what the weather is like at Donner Summit, before heading up.


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Great news about the whole weekend. Can't wait to be up there next week.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2006, 7:42 PM
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Saca will start meeting with buyers next week to sign contracts.
The Sac. Business Journal reports that another round of advertising
is about to start to bring in buyers for the rest of the units.
Saca has hired Turner Construction to build the towers, with a
cost of $500 million, or maybe more.
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Saca will start meeting with buyers next week to sign contracts.
The Sac. Business Journal reports that another round of advertising
is about to start to bring in buyers for the rest of the units.
Saca has hired Turner Construction to build the towers, with a
cost of $500 million, or maybe more.

I think it's already happening. (Buyers putting down non refundables).


BTW the Business Journal noted that the buildings are now 54 sotries where they were in previous plans 53 stories. Does anyone know whether the actually height has gone up??


We need to ask the moderators/administrators to change the title of the threads (in the highrise and California forums, to reflect the 54 stories. (instead of 53).

If anyone has any contacts in the city (or at 301 CM) that they can verify the height or the towers so that we can make appropriate corrections in forum.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2006, 10:00 PM
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There is an article in the April 14th Biz Journal that yes it Towers will be
54 stories but the height will remain the same. They did what AURA did
in shrinking all the floor heights by inches so they could insert one more story.
The article also talks about how it will be getting permits in phases as well
as other tid-bits. When the article comes out on line on Sunday I or someone
will post it.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2006, 10:03 PM
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There is an article in the April 14th Biz Journal that yes it Towers will be
54 stories but the height will remain the same. They did what AURA did
in shrinking all the floor heights by inches so they could insert one more story.
The article also talks about how it will be getting permits in phases as well
as other tid-bits. When the article comes out on line on Sunday I or someone
will post it.

Aura didn't shrink the floors, they increased the height of the building to 440' in order to add the 39th floor (if memory serves me correctly).

But I see what you mean about The Towers. It seems the designs have been a work in progress as evidenced by the constantly changing floor plans.
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You may be right about that on AURA on what happen when they added
39th floor. Oh, and on the other thread I asked how AURA can have
those big windows without having to have 18" of wall above and below it
like the Towers now need to have to meet regulations. The answer is AURA has
window walls meaning that those giant windows don't open so they don't
need the wall above and below.
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You may be right about that on AURA on what happen when they added
39th floor. Oh, and on the other thread I asked how AURA can have
those big windows without having to have 18" of wall above and below it
like the Towers now need to have to meet regulations. The answer is AURA has
window walls meaning that those giant windows don't open so they don't
need the wall above and below.

Yeah I had never heard of residential units not being able to offer floor to ceiling windows before CG mentioned it. That's just not the case and Aura is proof that they can offer it. Now offering windows that open is an entirely different matter. It's logical to assume it might be difficult if not impossible to offer floor to ceiling windows that open in residential buildings where the glass is the skin of the building. In that regard I would have to defer to CG, because I honestly dont know.
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Aura didn't shrink the floors, they increased the height of the building to 440' in order to add the 39th floor (if memory serves me correctly).

But I see what you mean about The Towers. It seems the designs have been a work in progress as evidenced by the constantly changing floor plans.
That's not what they told me -- I was told they decreased ther heigth of each floor to retain the same heigth overall.
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That's not what they told me -- I was told they decreased ther heigth of each floor to retain the same heigth overall.
I heard they divided the height by pie in order to arrive at a circumference equal to that of it's diameter divided by it's original height. But I think she might have been bullshitting me...
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That's not what they told me -- I was told they decreased ther heigth of each floor to retain the same heigth overall.

So then did they give you the estimated height upon completion???
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2006, 8:31 AM
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So then did they give you the estimated height upon completion???
I've said it before and I'll say it again: We won't know the final height of the towers until they top out. It seems to be a project very much in fluidity. (is that a word?)
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Saca's huge towers to go to city planners in phases

Developer will save money and speed up construction

Sacramento Business Journal - April 14, 2006by Mike McCarthyStaff writer

Developer John Saca has arranged with the city of Sacramento to phase the $11.5 million in building permits for his twin condominium towers on Capitol Mall, reducing his up-front costs and speeding construction.

It's a small savings in the $500 million project, but the kind of money management that will make things easier for Saca.

The phasing of permits is one of the new options in the Matrix program, devised by city manager Ray Kerridge and Bill Thomas, the city's development director. Matrix makes the development-approval process faster and more user-friendly.

"Years ago, you'd come in with 400 pounds' worth of blueprints for the whole project," Thomas said. "Now you can phase it."

The first permit, Thomas said, would be for driving 2,900 piles 70 feet into the ground to give the huge towers a firm footing.

The two 54-story towers (each one story taller than in previous plans) would hold 804 condominiums -- ranging in price from around $450,000 to more than $1 million for upper-floor and penthouse units -- plus a hotel, a health club, spa, stores and restaurants.

The complex would encompass about 2 million square feet, twice the space of the standard regional mall, Thomas said.

Saca expects to begin construction next month. The towers are expected to open 21?2 years after construction starts.

At 615 feet, the towers at 3rd Street and Capitol would be the highest edifices in Sacramento. Nearby Wells Fargo Center is 423 feet tall.

Saca cinched a deal last week with the California Public Employees' Retirement System, which will invest $100 million in the project. Along with cash from Saca, the money virtually ensures the project's construction.

Thomas said phasing the city permits is not a subsidy.

The staged permit program is also being used by developer Greg Nassi and his 38-story Aura condominium tower, being built on Capitol Mall at 6th Street. Nassi said that three-quarters of the project's 265 units were sold last weekend.

The first development in the phased permit program was the Marriott Residence Inn under construction at 15th and L streets. Developer Tony Giannoni got into the Matrix program last year.

The idea of phased permits was suggested by the city-appointed Development Oversight Commission because it allows construction to start sooner and saves the builder from borrowing more money for the project, said development consultant Brian Holloway, former chairman of the advisory body.

The Matrix also includes assigning teams of planners from various departments to consult with applicants throughout the process. The interaction is coordinated by a team leader.
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Saca expects to begin construction next month. The towers are expected to open 21?2 years after construction starts.
Obviously not 212 years , but do you know if that means 2 21 12 22 or what it said?
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Alright, that sounds more like what i thought. Thanks tuy
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