SkyTrain Station Renovations

[Waders]

I don't think closing Metrotown station would be possible.
Anyway the Centre Stationhouse construction is almost completed. Hopefully it will be opened in 1 to 2 months.

[Waders]

$25 million station upgrade for Surrey Central to begin in April

Pictures from Vancouver Sun.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Waders

why are there so many fare-gates in this station, yet so few at the busiest stations... including Canada-Line.

[Millennium2002]

Some more renders that I found... direct from the architect's website:











mcfarlane biggar architects + designers
http://www.officemb.ca/

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

why are there so many fare-gates in this station, yet so few at the busiest stations... including Canada Line.

It's hard to compare between retrofitting older stations and building anew...

The Canada Line stations were retrofitted with fare-gates as part of a multi-station compatibility upgrade scheme. The scope of that particular project was just to add fare-gates as quickly and cheaply as possible given the budget, forecasts, specs, and timelines that they had at the time.... There was some work done to expand various Expo Line station enclosures to make them all fit indoors, but anything outside of that narrow scope (e.g. future-proofing) was basically not considered.

Perhaps in a decade or two, we'll see the station upgrades move on towards the Millennium and Canada Lines to fix the bottlenecks that were induced by the initial round of fare-gates...

[Whalleyboy]

Why are they using canada line trains in the photos? lol

[mcminsen]

Originally Posted by dpogue

Buzzer blog post about the Commercial pedestrian walkway renovations.

Concept art from the post:


I'm really hoping that it turns out matching that design. I love the slight callback to the Expo stations' hoop truss design in the beams across the ceiling.

Originally Posted by officedweller

Commercial - Broadway Station -

Pics by me today:
(No visible changes since McMinsen's Nov 30 shots - maybe some more scaffolding below).

The steel substructure here (diagonal beams) must be for the escalator machinery (for the escalator from above).
Looks like the escalator will be set on a diagonal (see pic above), which also explains the diagonal beam in the corner of the bridge.

Not much change since officedweller's post from December 30th. The glass walls of the old bridge have been boarded up.



March 10 '17, my pics

[flipper316]

Originally Posted by Waders

$25 million station upgrade for Surrey Central to begin in April

Pictures from Vancouver Sun.

Are they actually going to be ripping up and re-doing the faregates at that station or is that just some wrong render.

[flipper316]

So what's gonna happen when LRT comes online? Are the stations going to integrated like they are at Commercial Broadway? Seems kind of silly to be doing this now when LRT hasn't been finalized.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by flipper316

So what's gonna happen when LRT comes online? Are the stations going to integrated like they are at Commercial Broadway? Seems kind of silly to be doing this now when LRT hasn't been finalized.

Wouldn't LRT be running down the middle of the street making whatever station improvements completely independent?

[Waders]

Originally Posted by flipper316

Are they actually going to be ripping up and re-doing the faregates at that station or is that just some wrong render.

The faregate will be redone.

[Millennium2002]

Originally Posted by flipper316

Are they actually going to be ripping up and re-doing the faregates at that station or is that just some wrong render.

Originally Posted by Waders

The faregate will be redone.

This is a new north side entrance... nothing will be ripped out from the existing south side entrances... or at least I hope...

There could be a phase two of this that involves rebuilding the south side to align with the new street grid, but that will most likely happen down the road in a few years or more.

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by Millennium2002

This is a new north side entrance... nothing will be ripped out from the existing south side entrances... or at least I hope...

There could be a phase two of this that involves rebuilding the south side to align with the new street grid, but that will most likely happen down the road in a few years or more.

That exactly what the plan is. This side will be done first to line up with 103 ave which is the new road right along the city plaza which will go right thru once 3 civic plaza is done. This road will also be the new bus pick up area in place of the bus loop. After this one is done it is likely the other side will be torn down and be rebuilt to line up with the new 102A ave which will act as the bus drop off route.

[Millennium2002]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

That exactly what the plan is. This side will be done first to line up with 103 ave which is the new road right along the city plaza which will go right thru once 3 civic plaza is done. This road will also be the new bus pick up area in place of the bus loop. After this one is done it is likely the other side will be torn down and be rebuilt to line up with the new 102A ave which will act as the bus drop off route.

Right... but the others seem to think this will happen immediately... which according to the renders is incorrect.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Wouldn't LRT be running down the middle of the street making whatever station improvements completely independent?

Just wait until they have to triple the transit police force just to ticket jaywalkers.

[SpongeG]

will the 3rd platform at broadway have street access/connection on the south side or is it just going to be for people transferring to the m-line?

I was talking with my friend the other day he had no idea what was going on and wondered why the station was all boarded up for so long.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

will the 3rd platform at broadway have street access/connection on the south side or is it just going to be for people transferring to the m-line?

It will have access to the original south part of the station.

[SpongeG]

ok thanks.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Kisai

Just wait until they have to triple the transit police force just to ticket jaywalkers.

Just let a few of them get run over and people will use common sense.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

Why are they using canada line trains in the photos? lol

Didn't you hear?
Adam and RailForTheValley successfully lobbied to convert the entire SkyTrain system to the Rotem technology as Bombardier's design is old, expensive and proprietary. They tried for an LRT conversion but ran into regional opposition in everywhere except Surrey.
They also persuaded the whole conversion to be paid for by annual fare revenue. The new multi-zone $6, $10 and $15 rates go into effect on September 1.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by MIPS

Didn't you hear?
Adam and RailForTheValley successfully lobbied to convert the entire SkyTrain system to the Rotem technology as Bombardier's design is old, expensive and proprietary. They tried for an LRT conversion but ran into regional opposition in everywhere except Surrey.
They also persuaded the whole conversion to be paid for by annual fare revenue. The new multi-zone $6, $10 and $15 rates go into effect on September 1.

Hahaa...

The only problem with that remark is that RFTV/Malcom hates everything but the Interurban. Their modus operendi is getting a slow train that nobody will commute on so they will have it for themselves.

Anyway my predictions for Surrey, assuming no last minute technology change post-election is that the costs for the LRT will far outstrip the cost of extending the Skytrain by 20-50%, and hopefully that ends all future LRT boondoggle projects.