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Old Posted Jan 12, 2019, 7:59 PM
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I remember in 2014, everyone was hating on New York City saying how this building was going to be more than twice as tall as the tallest building in NYC when its construction was completed in 2018. Well it's now 2019 and only 1/3 of this building is built. With oil prices so low and investors fleeing Saudi Arabia due to the murdered journalist, it may be years before there's money for construction of this tower to resume. So, probably looking at completion in the 2030s. It's also just one skyscraper, surrounded by nothing but desert for kilometers. New York City has hundreds of skyscrapers.
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I remember in 2014, everyone was hating on New York City saying how this building was going to be more than twice as tall as the tallest building in NYC when its construction was completed in 2018. Well it's now 2019 and only 1/3 of this building is built. With oil prices so low and investors fleeing Saudi Arabia due to the murdered journalist, it may be years before there's money for construction of this tower to resume. So, probably looking at completion in the 2030s. It's also just one skyscraper, surrounded by nothing but desert for kilometers. New York City has hundreds of skyscrapers.
Karma is a witch after all

Very happy this tower failed
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2019, 10:55 PM
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Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia still has the 601m Makkah Clock Royal Tower Hotel to brag about. But yeah I'm delighted that they now have this unfinished eyesore!
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2019, 12:17 AM
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Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia still has the 601m Makkah Clock Royal Tower Hotel to brag about. But yeah I'm delighted that they now have this unfinished eyesore!
Eh, Makkah doesn't really have an impressive skyline so whatever, it's not a ton taller than 1WTC or CPC in terms of structural/occupied height.

Saudi Arabia is a tiny, insignificant country compared to the USA in any case.
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2019, 4:46 AM
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Eh, Makkah doesn't really have an impressive skyline so whatever, it's not a ton taller than 1WTC or CPC in terms of structural/occupied height.

Saudi Arabia is a tiny, insignificant country compared to the USA in any case.

unfortunately a good splash of the 8 beeeelion barrels of oil the usa imports annually would imply otherwise.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/inves...tes/index.html
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2019, 8:06 AM
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unfortunately a good splash of the 8 beeeelion barrels of oil the usa imports annually would imply otherwise.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/inves...tes/index.html
That doesn't make sense. In 2017 we didn't even use 8 billion barrels of oil as a country... We get the vast majority of our oil from Canada and ourselves. Europe on the other hand...

https://www.americangeosciences.org/...-united-states

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=33&t=6

You're off by a magnitude of 1000 me thinks. Every day we use more than we import in an entire year from the Saudis. (20 million barrels a day compared to 10 million imported a year)
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CTBUH Skyscraper Center lists it as still under construction, with a 2021 completion date.
http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/jeddah-tower/2
That site is hot garbage. Yet the editors at wikipedia use it as a source.
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Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia still has the 601m Makkah Clock Royal Tower Hotel to brag about. But yeah I'm delighted that they now have this unfinished eyesore!
Are they still working on ringing mecca with a wall of luxury to keep out the poors?
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Eh, Makkah doesn't really have an impressive skyline so whatever, it's not a ton taller than 1WTC or CPC in terms of structural/occupied height.
True, but still I would feel better if we had a megatall in the US that's at least 602m. As you know, that almost happened (the 610m Chicago Spire).

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That site is hot garbage. Yet the editors at wikipedia use it as a source.
I suppose the term "under construction" can be used very loosely.

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Are they still working on ringing mecca with a wall of luxury to keep out the poors?
Dunno. Mecca isn't already surrounded by walls?
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where is the demand for this building, what are they going fill with, and if they do build it, wouldn't it take away demand from other buildings being build, ie, this will be a building surrounded by nothing. seems like a vanity project...
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where is the demand for this building, what are they going fill with, and if they do build it, wouldn't it take away demand from other buildings being build, ie, this will be a building surrounded by nothing. seems like a vanity project...
Demand??? It's a trophy building as part of a larger master plan (please feel free to read the history in the previous threads). . . demand has nothing to do with it. . . don't think there ever was a "tallest building in the world" that was ever built because there was a "demand" for it. . .

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Demand??? It's a trophy building as part of a larger master plan (please feel free to read the history in the previous threads). . . demand has nothing to do with it. . . don't think there ever was a "tallest building in the world" that was ever built because there was a "demand" for it. . .

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sure there were, starting with the home insurance building, the first skyscraper after the chicago fire.
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sure there were, starting with the home insurance building, the first skyscraper after the chicago fire.
The Home Insurance Building was not a trophy building built specifically for the purpose of being the worlds tallest building. . . bad example. . .

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I remember in 2014, everyone was hating on New York City saying how this building was going to be more than twice as tall as the tallest building in NYC when its construction was completed in 2018. Well it's now 2019 and only 1/3 of this building is built. With oil prices so low and investors fleeing Saudi Arabia due to the murdered journalist, it may be years before there's money for construction of this tower to resume. So, probably looking at completion in the 2030s. It's also just one skyscraper, surrounded by nothing but desert for kilometers. New York City has hundreds of skyscrapers.
This tower was a scam. 1/3rd of its height was to be spire only. Joke.
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This tower was a scam. 1/3rd of its height was to be spire only. Joke.
Certainly not the first or last one to do this.

https://www.dezeen.com/2013/09/05/sp...pers-revealed/

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All hail the true king, Shanghai tower
I believe BK has a higher occupied floor, one could argue that ST is a bit more imposing at that height though due to the narrowness of BK.
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I believe BK has a higher occupied floor
Your comment got me curious so I looked up some info on Wikipedia, and found this:

The Shanghai Tower's top floor: 587.4 m

The Burj Khalifa's top floor: 584.5 m

The BK's humongous decorative crown/spire is absurd.
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Your comment got me curious so I looked up some info on Wikipedia, and found this:

The Shanghai Tower's top floor: 587.4 m

The Burj Khalifa's top floor: 584.5 m

The BK's humongous decorative crown/spire is absurd.

True but I meant occupied height, the CTBUH has them about the same. And yes, the last ~250 meters of that building is empty nothingness.
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True but I meant occupied height, the CTBUH has them about the same. And yes, the last ~250 meters of that building is empty nothingness.
That's kind of why my Shanghai Tower is my favorite. It's not trying to win any hearts of technicality. That plus its blanket-like, twisting, exoskeleton facade is to die for
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