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Old Posted Jul 23, 2019, 8:48 PM
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Eh, in DC "parkway" means "more than an arterial but less than a freeway" too.
Yeah, DC too. DC has some good examples.

With roadways like the Merritt, people would laugh in most of the country:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1633...7i13312!8i6656

The dinky Merritt is considered a highway in NYC metro. But the monster 10 lane Telegraph Rd. isn't considered a highway in Detroit metro.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4979...7i16384!8i8192

Or Hall Rd., with an insane median, is worse. Don't think you can get more autocentric than Hall Rd.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6269...7i16384!8i8192
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2019, 9:27 PM
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These figures are surely dated, but the highest traffic count for Austin (2016) was IH35 a couple of miles north of downtown just below US290. The daily volume there was 241,000. The second highest count was the US 183 Freeway just east of Mopac Freeway with a daily volume of 197,000. Third place goes to Mopac Freeway downtown just south of LadyBird/Town Lake overpass with daily volume of 182,000. All of these roadways are usually just three lanes in each direction. Mopac recently added two toll lanes north of Town Lake. The sometimes very pricey toll lanes are often more backed up than the regular lanes. Go figure. Austin freeways were designed for a city and region with maybe half the present population. It is a mess.

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Old Posted Jul 23, 2019, 9:30 PM
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Yeah, DC too. DC has some good examples.

With roadways like the Merritt, people would laugh in most of the country:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1633...7i13312!8i6656

The dinky Merritt is considered a highway in NYC metro. But the monster 10 lane Telegraph Rd. isn't considered a highway in Detroit metro.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4979...7i16384!8i8192

Or Hall Rd., with an insane median, is worse. Don't think you can get more autocentric than Hall Rd.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6269...7i16384!8i8192
This discussion made me think about Metro Parkway, which is the same road class as Telegraph Rd. and 8 Mile Rd. I don't think there is really a "parkway" concept in Michigan. OTOH, "drives" in NYC are often used to refer to large streets or quasi-freeways, whereas a "drive" in Michigan is usually something resembling a scenic, winding boulevard.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2019, 9:52 PM
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Houston has some amazingly high traffic counts on IH10 freeway west of downtown and also on IH 69 (formerly US 59) Freeway. Traffic counts well over 300,000 vehicles per day on portions of both roadways. The IH10/Katy Freeway now has a zillion lanes and must rival that super road up in Toronto for daily volume. Check out the 2016 TxDot maps. Map number 7 has the highest counts. You can click at the top to enlarge. http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot...6/hou-base.pdf
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 1:09 AM
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Highest I could find in Denver is 274,000 per day on I-25 through DTC (as of 2017 - a sharp increase from 252,000 in 2014).

I was expecting I-25 through downtown to be worse since there's a perpetual traffic jam there, but that stretch only comes in at 261,000. Who'da thunk!
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 2:03 AM
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Houston has some amazingly high traffic counts on IH10 freeway west of downtown and also on IH 69 (formerly US 59) Freeway. Traffic counts well over 300,000 vehicles per day on portions of both roadways. The IH10/Katy Freeway now has a zillion lanes and must rival that super road up in Toronto for daily volume. Check out the 2016 TxDot maps. Map number 7 has the highest counts. You can click at the top to enlarge. http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot...6/hou-base.pdf
I had no idea the traffic counts in Houston were that high. Then again I haven't been there since 2010.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 2:04 AM
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No one (in any U.S. city) has experienced traffic unless they've experienced the following intersections:

405 @ 101 (LA)
10 @ 110 (LA)
101 @ 110 (LA)
10 @ 405 (LA)

Distant runner up:

35 between William Cannon & Rundberg (Austin) https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/aus...y-in-the-world
Yeah, 405 is a beast!
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For Salt Lake City, the highest I can find is along I-15 with 275,000 in 2017.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 4:15 PM
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Houston has some amazingly high traffic counts on IH10 freeway west of downtown and also on IH 69 (formerly US 59) Freeway. Traffic counts well over 300,000 vehicles per day on portions of both roadways. The IH10/Katy Freeway now has a zillion lanes and must rival that super road up in Toronto for daily volume. Check out the 2016 TxDot maps. Map number 7 has the highest counts. You can click at the top to enlarge. http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot...6/hou-base.pdf
Damn, 387k for the busiest point. Also just had a look and that's one wide highway, especially when you include the frontage roads which bring the total to about 25 lanes.

The only sections of highway in Toronto that are busier than that are the 427 between the QEW and 401 and the 401 between Dixon and Dufferin, with the absolute busiest section being the 401 between Weston Rd and the 400 at 417k according to the Ontario Ministry of Transportation's 2016 data.

Looks like in both cities the busiest areas are in employment heavy suburban areas relatively centrally located within the metro area.
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Just found this... yikes, nitrous oxides are really strongly correlated with highways, I thought they'd still be decently high along urban arterials and across the city as a whole.

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the absolute busiest section being the 401 between Weston Rd and the 400 at 417k
Wow. Never seen >400,000 before.
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A quick check of the counts in the City show it's the I-10 between "The Split" (I-10/I-17 southeast of downtown near the airport) and the Broadway Curve at 279,000 vehicles per day.

This was 2017 data. I'm sure 2018 or 2019 data is out there since they're continuous count stations, but I didn't really look.
Hell, I completely forgot about that stretch of I-10. I used to go out of my way to avoid it when I lived in Ahwatukee and worked in Midtown by taking the 48th Street to AZ 143 to AZ 202.
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610 @ 59 / West Loop South in Uptown Houston is also extremely horrific.
Yeah, that's pretty bad. I used to live over there. Fucking miserable. The Southwest Freeway (59 south bound from DT) is also a total shit show as is I-45 (northbound from DT). I-10 westbound...
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2019, 8:23 PM
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Is 59 the one that goes to *umble and IAH, or is that 45? I could never figure that out. My gf and I drove whatever that was from our hotel near the airport but got sick of it by our last day in Houston and took the Sam Houston tollway around the city to pick up 45 south of Downtown to get to NASA.

And then the access roads. Jesus Christ, the access roads in Houston...
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The Kennedy often has a traffic count of zero, as it frequently becomes one of the world's longest linear parking lots during rush hour.
Yep. And, unfortunately, I'm stuck right in it several days a week, depending on my work schedule. As I've found, it's not very easy to get from roughly Pulaski/Belmont down to Roosevelt/Jefferson where I work via CTA. Heh

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Yep. And, unfortunately, I'm stuck right in it several days a week, depending on my work schedule. As I've found, it's not very easy to get from roughly Pulaski/Belmont down to Roosevelt/Jefferson where I work via CTA. Heh
i don't know how comfortable you are with urban cycling, but if i were in your shoes, i'd bike the shit out of that commute ALL. DAY. LONG.

belmont -> milwaukee, milwaukee -> des plaines, des plaines -> to roosevelt. 7.1 miles. ~80% of that route has bike lanes.

might even be faster than driving if the kennedy behaves as it usually does at "rush" hour.
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Is 59 the one that goes to *umble and IAH, or is that 45? I could never figure that out. My gf and I drove whatever that was from our hotel near the airport but got sick of it by our last day in Houston and took the Sam Houston tollway around the city to pick up 45 south of Downtown to get to NASA.

And then the access roads. Jesus Christ, the access roads in Houston...
59 goes from downtown to Humble, 45 goes from downtown up to Spring/The Woodlands.

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Oh. I don't know why I struggled with that, but then again, I damaged our rental car the second-to-last day my gf and I were there. I have an innate ability to back into parked vehicles.
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59 goes from downtown to Humble, 45 goes from downtown up to Spring/The Woodlands.

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Looks like SW Freeway US 59 is now designated IH 69. I think it will be IH 69 from down near Corpus up towards Shreveport and IH 20.
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I live directly off 59 just north of "*umble*.

59 going north is a breeze. Its on the other side of town going towards the southwest which blows.

Taking 45 into the central part of the city stinks, 59 is better. The Hardy Toll Road is even better but currently ends at 610(it is being extended to downtown though)
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