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Not necessary but convenient for most foods that aren't bread based. I would never nuke a slice of pizza but it's certainly more logical to reheat/ steam some vegetables or sauce for a few minutes than to deal with the stove. Especially if you don't have the gas version.
I’ve got an induction surface in the corner for that kind of quick job (and obviously much else).

I’m sure it has its uses, but for me it’s pretty far down the list in terms of justifying the real estate in the kitchen.
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2019, 10:28 PM
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Nothing wrong with a microwave. Its a good piece of equipment.

10023, let me know which one you want, I'll send you a birthday present. Wal-Mart sells some.

Ah... here we go. This ones nice. A perfect item for your kitchen.



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And with looks to match. Will make your kitchen complete.
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2019, 10:33 PM
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I’ve got an induction surface in the corner for that kind of quick job (and obviously much else).

I’m sure it has its uses, but for me it’s pretty far down the list in terms of justifying the real estate in the kitchen.
I think you'll find it's not the main appliance for most people. We use ours mostly as a clock. Those induction cookers are pretty damn cool but require pots/ pans of their own which can be a drawback.
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This would be a public health and social disaster. Poor people spending all their money on unhealthy fast food because they can’t cook at home. Just NO. We need to encourage cooking at home as a way of combatting obesity and getting people to save money.
This. This is all that needs to be said. Cooking at home is far more cost-effective than eating out, at least when you're not just a single person with roommates. For a single person, it's almost a wash since most meals wind up being a bit tough to cook for only one person.

The thought of having an apartment with no kitchen makes me shudder. No cooking a frozen pizza in the oven, even? Seriously?

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Old Posted Aug 5, 2019, 11:30 PM
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You and I could not be more different as people.

I don’t even own a microwave, and have no need or desire for one. They are food-ruining machines. You cannot cook in a microwave, you can only reheat things that should not be eaten.
I don't agree with this necessarily, 10023. Microwaves are definitely good for popcorn popping, excellent for reheating things that aren't necessarily meant to be crispy/crunchy, and are quite good at reheating coffee from the previous day's carafe-full. But seriously, while I don't COOK in a microwave, they do have their uses.

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You can also make yourself a damn quesadilla. I go back and forth between doing those on a griddle with oil vs. a microwave.
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I don’t even own a microwave, and have no need or desire for one. They are food-ruining machines. You cannot cook in a microwave, you can only reheat things that should not be eaten.
I'm the cook in our family. I use the microwave for quickly melting butter (well, Earth Balance) and defrosting things I forget to defrost in the fridge overnight. Not really cooking anything I would willingly eat though.
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Aside from defrosting and popcorn, I use the microwave a lot for re-heating stews, curries, sauces, pies, etc. Yeah, if you're eating steak or french fries, you want it freshly cooked and not re-heated but there's a lot of foods where the drop in quality if eating reheated is small or non-existent.

I use the stove-top the most, and although I don't need 4 elements, I do use two simultaneously relatively often. I don't use the oven as much, but I still use it, mainly for baking deserts (cookies, muffins, pies, apple crumble), grilling (esp chicken) and pulled pork.
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2019, 6:20 AM
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I think you'll find it's not the main appliance for most people. We use ours mostly as a clock. Those induction cookers are pretty damn cool but require pots/ pans of their own which can be a drawback.
They don’t require specialised pots and pans. True you can’t use copper, but any standard stainless steel, cast iron or carbon steel will work.
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Absolutely no way. I travel quite a bit for work and have to eat at restaurants far more often than I'd like already, so there's no way I'd want to have to rely on restaurants (or food delivery) to eat when I'm at home as well.
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2019, 1:23 AM
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I don't agree with this necessarily, 10023. Microwaves are definitely good for popcorn popping, excellent for reheating things that aren't necessarily meant to be crispy/crunchy, and are quite good at reheating coffee from the previous day's carafe-full. But seriously, while I don't COOK in a microwave, they do have their uses.

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I rented an apartment that had no furniture whatsoever (so no kitchen either).

I put a huge fridge, a microwave and a nespresso machine in the room that was originally designed to be a kitchen, but apart from that the room now has other uses.

The last time I cooked myself was probably 6 or 7 years ago. Eating out or having food delivered is far more convenient, faster, tastier and as a single also not more expensive.
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Listen to the man, Glowrock knows how to cook!
I haven’t eaten popcorn in years and I don’t ever have a need to reheat coffee. I just don’t have the need for one.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2019, 6:03 PM
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I rented an apartment that had no furniture whatsoever (so no kitchen either).

I put a huge fridge, a microwave and a nespresso machine in the room that was originally designed to be a kitchen, but apart from that the room now has other uses.

The last time I cooked myself was probably 6 or 7 years ago. Eating out or having food delivered is far more convenient, faster, tastier and as a single also not more expensive.
This obviously depends on one’s abilities as a cook. Any food I can get delivered (and Deliveroo has hundreds of restaurants that deliver to me) is going to be inferior, at least by the time it arrives, to what I can make myself.
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This obviously depends on one’s abilities as a cook. Any food I can get delivered (and Deliveroo has hundreds of restaurants that deliver to me) is going to be inferior, at least by the time it arrives, to what I can make myself.
I'm sure you're well aware that there are tons of young professionals who don't have the time to cook, don't care to cook, or are fed by their employers (I formerly met all three criteria) and so there's a market for units with smaller or nonexistent kitchens.
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No way. If for no other reason than my need to have real breakfasts.

We have a bougie Sharp combo microwave / convection oven that handles 400 degree baking at duration no problem, which is what I use it mostly for. That being said, there’s nothing wrong with freezing some homemade stock like dashi and using your microwave to dethaw it a few weeks later. Or to just reheat last night’s (non-fried) leftovers.

You can also legit make some fun sponge cakes in a microwave.
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You dont need a full kitchen room if you are the basic, dont cook much type of person. You just need some counter space.
For me I would just have a Coffee Maker, Rice cooker, electric griddle, electric water kettle, electric toaster oven, electric blender, electric slow cooker, microwave. mini fridge. Thats a lot of stuff. You just need a closet to put that stuff, plates. But overall just a fraction of a normal kitchen if you really want to cook something. Even a small electric hot plate.

A large toaster oven I was able to cook and bake. No need for a big oven to do that.

I understand people who are like I need a kitchen. It is a must, but that is you. A lot of people dont cook nor know how to cook basic stuff. I could live without a full kitchen. just those plug in appliances. But for a multiple people like a family, a kitchen is practical and so is more space.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2019, 10:42 AM
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I'm sure you're well aware that there are tons of young professionals who don't have the time to cook, don't care to cook, or are fed by their employers (I formerly met all three criteria) and so there's a market for units with smaller or nonexistent kitchens.
And this is an extremely sad and unfortunate fact if true.

That people don’t find cooking to be a worthwhile and important use of their time is a public health crisis. And so many Americans (and Europeans) eat things that are just shamefully and disgustingly bad.
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I'm sure you're well aware that there are tons of young professionals who don't have the time to cook, don't care to cook, or are fed by their employers (I formerly met all three criteria) and so there's a market for units with smaller or nonexistent kitchens.
They claim they don't have time to cook...yet find time to go to the bar, gym, shop, make reservations to sit down at a restaurant etc.

You can prep and cook a healthy meal in 20 minutes, requiring far less time to be wasted than, getting dressed to venture out and find a place, order, wait, eat, pay etc.
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