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Old Posted Nov 12, 2010, 6:11 PM
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128 floors?

Why have floor heights become so tall? This tower averages 16.195 feet counting the unoccupied crown. Even without the crown, they seem to be at least 14 to 15 feet. This doesn't seem to be economical. Just to make it tall?
     
     
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i think direct economics of skyscrapers have been set aside now days contractors and such get kinda pushed and encouraged to do it because the city will certantly regain it all in tourism and such.

and in China and Hong Kong especially they have to do it because of insane population number and very little space.


and Shanghai really wants to prove its economic strength against Hong Kong and Singapore who have been big players in the game of trade and shipping much longer.
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Why have floor heights become so tall? This tower averages 16.195 feet counting the unoccupied crown. Even without the crown, they seem to be at least 14 to 15 feet. This doesn't seem to be economical. Just to make it tall?
Modern office buildings require lots of utilities, which take up some space on each floor. In addition, high ceilings reduce lighting needs by allowing daylight to penetrate farther into the building.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2010, 10:16 PM
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^I'd say 13.5-15 foot ceilings are the norm these days, unless it's residential or hotel, where 10-12 feet are still common. This is why the Khalifa Tower has 162 floors, even though the occupied section is about as tall as the occupied 128 floors of this building. Its hotel/residential floors are 11 feet high (roughly, it's obviously metric over there).
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The core alone is as large as the entire footprint of the Jin Mao Tower on the other side of the street!
     
     
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Amazing progress! Only in China!!
     
     
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Damn! This tower is rising faster than you can blink.
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2010, 3:17 AM
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Those are some big ####### columns. Is that a 10 foot wide sheet of steel?
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Old Posted Nov 23, 2010, 3:19 AM
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This tower is rising incredibly fast. Shanghai proves once again that its quickly becoming a world leader in terms of skyscrapers.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2010, 11:58 AM
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Great progress! It is rising fast.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2010, 1:47 AM
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You can see the construction site just to the right of the SWFC.

     
     
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^^^ Wow the most light is coming from the construction site
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2010, 6:26 PM
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In 3, 4 years time, that last photo will look even more spectacular. The skyline will look complete.
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Can't help but smile looking at that last picture...haha
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Why have floor heights become so tall? This tower averages 16.195 feet counting the unoccupied crown. Even without the crown, they seem to be at least 14 to 15 feet. This doesn't seem to be economical. Just to make it tall?
well makes sense to me, im a carpenter in this industry, trust me, 14 to 15 ft is reasonable, gives more light etc, better atmosphere, gotta count for slab thickness, which has to be quite thick, count for mechanical, plumbing, electrical, t-bar, ceiling, backing etc, fire rated walls all sorts
     
     
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Oh wow, I didnt even know it was above ground yet, thats pretty awesome. This is going to be the most amazing tower in the world when completed. Its a hell of a lot sexier than Burj Khalifa and Abraij Al Bait.
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Am I correct that Gensler SF designed this tower? If so, within this amazing supertall cluster, we now have one Chicago-designed tower (Jin Mao), one NY-designed tower (WFC), and one SF-designed tower (Shanghai Tower)!
     
     
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Am I correct that Gensler SF designed this tower? If so, within this amazing supertall cluster, we now have one Chicago-designed tower (Jin Mao), one NY-designed tower (WFC), and one SF-designed tower (Shanghai Tower)!
That is freaking awesome to read.
     
     
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the last photo looked like about 5% occupancy per building lol
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^Looks more like 5am on a Wednesday morning to me.

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