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Old Posted Dec 4, 2008, 2:29 PM
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Hopefully the stones are still salvageable.
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Arson?
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Mice with matches! The Fire Marshals Office has been called to investigate.
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How unfortunate. It was turning into a jewel on barton street.
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Tragic, last time I was there it looked like the renos were nearly finished.
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I hope they don't just tear it all down. They should make a park out of the ruins.
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It's awful. The people behind the project must be devastated. The house had its origins in a great gesture of good will and was taking shape through the hard work and diligence of people committed to the comfort and solace of others. And it was - was going to be - a great example of adaptive and constructive reuse of property that might otherwise have sat neglected.

It's disappointing, though by now not surprising, the way the Spectator is able to view any news event through the lens of traffic flow and commerce, as if that's the angle that speaks to our common interests and perspectives. The article is titled "Heritage Building Blaze Closes Barton" and is filled with details of how traffic was effected and the means by which Tim Horton's customers were able to enter the store through the Wellington St entrance. In October when a woman was struck and killed at Main & James, the first headline was something about "Downtown Gridlock".
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I'm watching the news on tv right now about the horrible fire. I hate to see heritage buildings damaged in any way. I hope it wasn't arson. If it was I hope they find the culprit.

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Yes tragic for sure. that hour of the morning it's likely arson rather than workers tools or mishaps. Hopefully they can salvage the stone and incorporate it in a new building, still have something unique. If Hamilton Health Sciences is tight on funds and wants to launch a campaign donation drive, I'm in. The community needs something like this.
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Hey Jeff, welcome! We need more people like you on the board.
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Old Posted Dec 4, 2008, 5:23 PM
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I certainly hope no one lets entropy and arson determine this lot's future... or the help available to families who need it.

Even with the loss of the history, that can't be undone, I hope whatever happens next makes a statement about the importance of the project and the value of transforming that property.

It would be a real shame to have an empty lot for any significant time... I just hope the arsonist doesn't feel they've "won" or that destruction of property is just tolerated and let to sit.
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The building had all of the rooms framed and 75% of the dry wall in. They’re where appliances for the kitchen already delivered to the building.

They should be able to rebuild if the outside wall is sound. Apparently the west wall is now leaning out 12 to 18 inches and they are worried it will come down.

The building was insured for $2 million.

If anyone is interested, the fire call came into the fire department at 5:34 am and first calls came from the Tim Hortons. The fire moved rapidly through the building.
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Awful, awful. What a tragedy, and how horrible for the family and everyone else who worked on this.

A little to soon to be suggesting arson, IMO. Alot can go wrong on a construction site.
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The site was a dumping ground for various chemicals so it's not surprising the fire spread quickly.
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Tragedy i agree but lets try and make somethign out of this.

Building was insured for two million? Why not use some of this money to make a bid into treble hall and renovate that?
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Tragedy i agree but lets try and make somethign out of this.

Building was insured for two million? Why not use some of this money to make a bid into treble hall and renovate that?
uuuhhhhh... because they still need to build a house on the Mark Preece property for the families of Hospital patients with that money.
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2008, 4:16 AM
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Saw on the news tonight they plan to move ahead as quickly as possible to rebuild.

Sad to say but I rarely expect people to have the proper insurance - its good they did in this case.
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I think my friend said it best:
"unbelievable that an actual practical use of a heritage building in hamilton gets to going in hamilton and...it burns down. boy oh boy"

This and the government F-up in one morning made me wonder why I bothered getting up and going to work.


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They have knocked down part of the west wall late today for safety reasons.
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