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[ethereal_reality]

I remember Beaudy's post because of this...

Originally Posted by Beaudry

Lest anyone say we're not being noirish enough, check out that guy...



My guess is he's peering down at his DeSoto and wondering if the body in the trunk is starting to smell.

[Krell58]

Originally Posted by Beaudry

Dang, sometimes I forget how much I love those aerials.



Red dot at the bottom is where Reagh shot the image, above the Broadway Tunnel. Red dot at the top is the Olive St Shul, 227 North Olive. Blue dot is the La Salle Apartments, 314 California, between Broadway and Hill, home of the guy with the DeSoto.

Orange dot is the inersection of Broadway and Fort Moore Place, where the grandest houses were. The yellow dot to the right is Mary Banning's place (that began life as the Buena Vista, Jacob Phillipi's beer hall, in 1883.) The other yellow dot to the left is the Hill St tunnel opening onto Temple.

Beaudry, do you have an aerial photo from this time frame that shows N. Grand between Temple and Sunset? Thanks in advance.

[ethereal_reality]

Noir Noir, I really enjoyed your excellent post on the Punk residences of the late 1970s and early 80s.

I've read through parts of Pleasant Grehman's blog and thought it was very interesting.


photo booth pics [Pleasant Grehman] "At the Hollywood Boulevard Woolworth's photo booth around the corner from The Masque 1977."


PLEASANTGREHMAN


I believe the photo booth is the one you see in this Matt Sweeney phootgraph. ( or an earlier photo booth in the same location)


The Atlantic

"Photo booth on Hollywood Boulevard at Whitley in front of the Walgreens by Fredrick's of Hollywood." MATT SWEENEY
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Imagine having to explain the concept of photo booths to today's 'selfie' loving youths.

[ethereal_reality]

VANTAGE POINT SOLVED

Originally Posted by tovangar2

I assume the shot was taken from the roof (or an upper window) of our old friend Villa Elaine

Thanks for your help t2. I was looking at the wrong corner.


google earth



Here's a close-up of the Jester Room located in the Villa Elaine.


DETAIL

mention of the Jester Rm.

Robert Vaughn: A Fortunate Life


The same view today.(in 2014 to be exact)

GSV

In 2011 there was a beautiful tree out front. (do you recognize what kind of tree odinthor?)
It looks fairly common but I like it.






GW was seen on the block the week it went missing.

GIPHY


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[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' location #1

I found this pic last week with a group of photographs on ebay.

I believe the photo was taken to show the damage on the side of the vehicle.


NO LONGER LISTED

At first I thought that was a 20th Century Fox sign down the street but now I'm not so sure.

the group of photos were labeled like this.



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[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' location #2

This photograph looks vaguely familiar...but I still believe it's new to nla.



same label



The other photographs in the group are of firemen visiting radio stations. (those pics are on my computer in Indiana) I'm in Illinois.
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[HossC]

With the Frontenac Apartments (212 South Grand) in the background, this was probably taken in the parking lot of Fire Station No 3 at 217 South Hill Street.


www.lafire.com

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Krell58

Beaudry, do you have an aerial photo from this time frame that shows N. Grand between Temple and Sunset? Thanks in advance.

Beaudry's aerial seems to be frame 60 of flight C_7334, which is dated as August 15, 1941. Here's part of frame 94 showing N Grand between Temple and Sunset.
NB. I've scaled this to half size - if you want more detail, click the link below the image (it's a 231Mb download!).


mil.library.ucsb.edu

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

[...]
In 2011 there was a beautiful tree out front. (do you recognize what kind of tree odinthor?)
It looks fairly common but I like it.

[...]

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That's the ever-lush and cooling Ficus nitida, e_r. This 2011 specimen seems to have been behaving itself very considerately, as I see only a slight amount of the pavement-buckling the roots can cause. Storeowners can find them objectionable because the lushness of the growth hides a store's signage. The new tree is a Jacaranda, a beautiful and desirable tree . . . which causes its own amount of problems, for instance when the beautiful blossoms fall en masse and make the sidewalks slippery. But always: Better any tree than no tree!

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by odinthor

That's the ever-lush and cooling Ficus nitida, e_r. This 2011 specimen seems to have been behaving itself very considerately, as I see only a slight amount of the pavement-buckling the roots can cause. Storeowners can find them objectionable because the lushness of the growth hides a store's signage. The new tree is a Jacaranda, a beautiful and desirable tree . . . which causes its own amount of problems, for instance when the beautiful blossoms fall en masse and make the sidewalks slippery. But always: Better any tree than no tree!

since I can't post, will someone find and post a picture of the temple at Angkor Wat for pics of what ficus can do if left unchecked......

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location #1

I found this pic last week with a group of photographs on ebay.

I believe the photo was taken to show the damage on the side of the vehicle.


NO LONGER LISTED

At first I thought that was a 20th Century Fox sign down the street but now I'm not so sure.

The building in the background is Pride Hand Laundry Ltd at 5873 W 3rd Street. I think the raised sign just says "SAVE 20%". We've seen the building before:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

And a block east of the 'Dog House' there is this intriguing art deco building on the northeast corner of W. 3rd Street and S. Poinsettia Place.


gsv

The damaged LAFD vehicle was probably parked outside Engine Co No 61 at 5821 W 3rd Street. We've been here before too. This is part of a post about the filming locations of The Three Stooges' 1936 short "False Alarms".

Originally Posted by HossC

It was demolished in 1984. There's a set of black & white photos courtesy of the Los Angeles Fire Department Historical Society on Flickr, while the image below is from a page at lafire.com.


www.lafire.com

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by oldstuff

since I can't post, will someone find and post a picture of the temple at Angkor Wat for pics of what ficus can do if left unchecked......

https://www.tuxboard.com/nature-homm...-homme-angkor/

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The rooftop boxing photograph was one of my mystery posts a long long time ago. I described it as "Women boxing on a Los Angeles rooftop, 1933."

of course I followed up with a question.

"Where would you find a group of young ladies on a rooftop?" Could it possibly be a Y.W.C.A?

If I remember correctly, we eventually figured out the location...but not in nearly as much detail as you did in your post.
I am especially impressed that you pointed out the ladder and the vantage point of the photographer. That's so awesome Scott!



I didn't know the girls were members of a specific 'troupe'. I thought they were probably studio contract players.....or women from a casting agency.

& since there are nine women on the roof-top and nine in the photograph below... I think these lovely ladies might be the "RKO Pictures Chorus Girls".


flickr

It's pretty clear this pic was taken at a movie studio. I wonder if it's RKO?

(& just so you all know...I'm also curious about that odd 'flue'-like thingy that looks like a giant matchstick)
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p.s. if you feel the need to count the ladies on the roof (like I just did ) you can see it HERE

I tried to find a an aerial of Paramount which shows the "flue like" thingy since that would be the wood or carpenter's shop and would zero in on the location. I settled for some maps of the lot. The flue would be a chimney for burning sawdust and scraps from the wood shop. Most studios had them at the time. There is a spark arrestor on the top to keep the cheap sets (all made of wood) from catching fire and going up like matchsticks.

It appears that the most likely candidate for the building where the women are on the roof would be the Hans Dreier building on the Paramount lot. It was built in 1929 and appears to have a flat roof. It is adjacent (or attached to Stage 9 and kitty-corner across from the carpentry shop which would have had the flue.
The photo is probably flipped since the carpenters shop would actually be to the right of roof of the Dreier building rather than the other side.

Someone who has worked on the Paramount lot, correct me if I'm wrong, and let me know if the Dreier building actually has a flat roof.

I hope it was winter when the picture was taken since it would have been really hot on that roof in summer in the middle of the day!!

[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location #1

I found this pic last week with a group of photographs on ebay.

I believe the photo was taken to show the damage on the side of the vehicle.

Originally Posted by HossC

The building in the background is Pride Hand Laundry Ltd at 5873 W 3rd Street. I think the raised sign just says "SAVE 20%". We've seen the building before:

Pride Laundry are still on the scene but have moved a few buildings east to stand on the corner at 5851 W. Third St. to be still next door to the fire station. Must be really fussy about maintaining minimal response times in case of fire.


GSV

[HossC]

Originally Posted by oldstuff

I tried to find a an aerial of Paramount which shows the "flue like" thingy since that would be the wood or carpenter's shop and would zero in on the location. I settled for some maps of the lot. The flue would be a chimney for burning sawdust and scraps from the wood shop. Most studios had them at the time. There is a spark arrestor on the top to keep the cheap sets (all made of wood) from catching fire and going up like matchsticks.

It appears that the most likely candidate for the building where the women are on the roof would be the Hans Dreier building on the Paramount lot. It was built in 1929 and appears to have a flat roof. It is adjacent (or attached to Stage 9 and kitty-corner across from the carpentry shop which would have had the flue.
The photo is probably flipped since the carpenters shop would actually be to the right of roof of the Dreier building rather than the other side.

Someone who has worked on the Paramount lot, correct me if I'm wrong, and let me know if the Dreier building actually has a flat roof.

I hope it was winter when the picture was taken since it would have been really hot on that roof in summer in the middle of the day!!

Could this be the mystery "'flue'-like thingy"? It's quite near the backlot. The photo below is from 1930. The arrowed object is absent from mid-40s images that I've found. The area today would be just east of the Blue Sky Tank.


hollywoodphotographs.com

Here's a reminder of the original picture:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

flickr

[Krell58]

Originally Posted by HossC

Beaudry's aerial seems to be frame 60 of flight C_7334, which is dated as August 15, 1941. Here's part of frame 94 showing N Grand between Temple and Sunset.
NB. I've scaled this to half size - if you want more detail, click the link below the image (it's a 231Mb download!).


mil.library.ucsb.edu

Thanks, HossC!

[ethereal_reality]

Great sleuthing oldstuff and Hoss! I couldn't find that damn thing.

Originally Posted by HossC

oldstuff, could this be the mystery "'flue'-like thingy"?

DETAIL / ENLARGED


I put a red dot where the chorus girls were standing.

(it's a ramp leading up to the sound stage doors, right?)

[Tourmaline]

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir

Pride Laundry are still on the scene but have moved a few buildings east to stand on the corner at 5851 W. Third St. to be still next door to the fire station. Must be really fussy about maintaining minimal response times in case of fire.


GSV

FWIW, 1947 permit for the brick structure Pride currently occupies (5851) indicates it was intended for use as retail stores and "No food or beverages to be sold in stores." Apparently prior to '47 it was unimproved. (Another view below.)


We have discussed Station 61, Stooges and nearby locations several times. See e.g., http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=7492 and http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=34012 HossC provided one view toward the east and a second of the intersection of Third St. and La Brea. Regarding the latter, the pictured 76 Station is long gone, but the round structure is still with us and GW observed that it had been a target of the Monkey Bandit in '32. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=34015

Note imposing structure to the left. (Presumably the Los Angeles Junior Seminary http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=31561,
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We've also seen another west view of Station 61 from what was once the ABC Market at 5800 W Third Street (Currently the Wine Hotel). New construction permit suggests that structure dates from 1932. This picture was obviously taken well before the post '47 construction of the brick building. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=34015


Wine Hotel
https://dco2rw8nil4x7.cloudfront.net...2/cwpMFNIo.jpg





Returning to the image in front of the Station, looking to the (left) south side of the street is a big dark structure, that would have clearly predated Park La Brea. CD search has not yet revealed anything about that structure. Haven't tried aerial views, yet.

[ethereal_reality]

I was wondering about the structure on the far left as well Tourmaline. It looks really interesting...almost barn-like.

Originally Posted by ethereal reality

Originally Posted by HossC

With the Frontenac Apartments (212 South Grand) in the background, this was probably taken in the parking lot of Fire Station No 3 at 217 South Hill Street.

LAPL

[ethereal_reality]