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Old Posted May 25, 2008, 11:33 PM
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i don't know any higher proposal than the FT...do you mean any specific tower or only in general?
i mean like an office building or a tower like the cn tower
i just think with all the damand and all the towers being built that one of them has to be taller then FT
maybe in 3 or 4 years from now
     
     
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The roof height of Freedom Tower is not a centimeter more than 417m. This fact has been established everywhere. The symbolic 417m number is not going to change.
The "symbolic" height is the 1,776 foot elevation of the tip of the spire (or 417 meters, if you will). That's NOT the roof height.
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The "symbolic" height is the 1,776 foot elevation of the tip of the spire (or 417 meters, if you will). That's NOT the roof height.
i forget why 1776 is symbolic
     
     
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i forget why 1776 is symbolic
Declaration of Independence, July 4 1776...
     
     
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The "symbolic" height is the 1,776 foot elevation of the tip of the spire (or 417 meters, if you will). That's NOT the roof height.
The title of this thread, and many other sources officially state the roof height as 417m or 1368 feet. I haven't seen any other number for the 'roof' height of FT. Even on the official WTC website, they clearly state that the height of the antenna/spire is 408'. Which means the roof height is 1776' - 408' = 1368' or 417 meters.
     
     
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i dont know if its just me, but i think the tower has a small floor space, if u see the massiveness of the core, and compare the space to the steel beams, i think it looks small...
     
     
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thats the way it is with supertalls. I remember making the same comment when i saw the ratio of core to floorspace on the Shanghai World Financial Center
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The title of this thread, and many other sources officially state the roof height as 417m or 1368 feet. I haven't seen any other number for the 'roof' height of FT. Even on the official WTC website, they clearly state that the height of the antenna/spire is 408'. Which means the roof height is 1776' - 408' = 1368' or 417 meters.
The top of the facade is at 1,368 ft, not the actual "roof", which will vary in height. But we do count the facade (on most towers anyway) as roof height. The 408 ft given for the spire is just the difference between that and the final 1,776 ft height. You'll just have to wait for the actual specifics, as the top is constantly being redesigned.
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Old Posted May 26, 2008, 9:16 AM
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Those old low-rise buildings will feel out of place with the new complex. Wouldn't be surprised if they're demolished at some point in the near future.
Those old lowrises were reclaimed by people who have been living there for years, and were among the first to move back after 9/11. For symbolic reasons, they probably won't be going anywhere, but anything is possible there.
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Declaration of Independence, July 4 1776...
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Overlooking the memorial...




its cool how the freedom tower is right next to the waterfalls
     
     
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the render above is missing some 5 thousand onlookers
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I hope to god that the freedom towers base looks nothing like a larger version of 2 columbus circle. You never know because renderings are very misleading.
     
     
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I hope to god that the freedom towers base looks nothing like a larger version of 2 columbus circle. You never know because renderings are very misleading.
The Freedom Tower's base will look nothing like either form of 2 Columbus Circle because because the FT's base is glass and 2 Columbus is limestone.
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5/24.. this one is ready to go airborne





     
     
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5/24.. this one is ready to go airborne

And so are we...
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I'm so happy I'll be there tomorrow!!!
I hope I can take good pictures of the skyline from the plane and I that there is a good view from Columbia Unviersity, but I will only be able to share the pictures by August because I don't think I'll have time to to login in.
     
     
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Only matter of a short time before its brothers across the pit will join in
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The "symbolic" height is the 1,776 foot elevation of the tip of the spire (or 417 meters, if you will). That's NOT the roof height.
Thank you for saving me from stating the obvious.

Aluminum, 1,776 ft is the tip of the pinnacle, which is symbolic for the year of the signing of the DOI.

1,368 ft is the roof height.

All you had to do was look at the title of the thread.....
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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 8:50 PM
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1,368 ft is the roof height.

All you had to do was look at the title of the thread.....
Thats exactly what I told them. I didn't mean that 1368' is symbolic like 1776', but is kinda special as it was the roof height of original WTC1 and I guess they don't want any roof to go higher than that.
     
     
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