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[Riverman]

The LEDs themselves don't mind the cold but the driver does.

I was recently shopping for outdoor fixtures and most of the ones at home centres and most of them do not have replaceable bulbs. The drivers do go and they start strobing.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by rkspec

a few of mine and my neighbors exterior LED bulbs stopped working during the cold snap, google told me LEds actually function more efficiently in the cold but if u ask me i think the cold is what did it as they are only a year old.

But maybe they mean -20 cold and not -60

might be an expensive fix if they are really fubar.

There are cold weather LED bulbs available but not cheep. I paid almost $10 + tax for one bulb back in 2016. Not sure what the current price is as that one is still working.

[buzzg]

They’re on tonight. Blue. Moving.

[Auror]

If you get good quality ones, they work. I have 8 coloured LIFX floodlights outside. This winter was bad, we had - 40c nights in Winnipeg. They work fine! No issues!

[Pinus]

Originally Posted by Auror

If you get good quality ones, they work. I have 8 coloured LIFX floodlights outside. This winter was bad, we had - 40c nights in Winnipeg. They work fine! No issues!

Technically, I don't think that the temperature actually got to -40C this winter.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by Pinus

Technically, I don't think that the temperature actually got to -40C this winter.

Wind chill. We had a -53 a couple of weeks back.

[Pinus]

Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

Wind chill. We had a -53 a couple of weeks back.

Pretty sure you know I was referring to air temp, not windchill.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by buzzg

They’re on tonight. Blue. Moving.

Interesting as two weeks ago when I was leaving work at 1am the lights were static and red in color with some sections missing in action.

[bomberjet]

Wind chill is not a real number. Winnipeg got to -39.9c on the official airport thermometer. However the unofficial thermometer got to -40.0c. There were many locations lower than that.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Wind chill is not a real number.

Unless you go outdoors on a high windchill day, then it suddenly becomes very relevant.

[ywgwalk]

Originally Posted by esquire

Unless you go outdoors on a high windchill day, then it suddenly becomes very relevant.

But as soon as you've protected yourself from the wind (say with a scarf) it becomes completely irrelevant again.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by ywgwalk

But as soon as you've protected yourself from the wind (say with a scarf) it becomes completely irrelevant again.

And yet, the same parks and playgrounds that are busy on a nice day are utterly abandoned on high windchill days.

I don't know why you windchill militants are the way you are, but your theories are completely at odds with the reality I see on winter days.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by esquire

And yet, the same parks and playgrounds that are busy on a nice day are utterly abandoned on high windchill days.

I don't know why you windchill militants are the way you are, but your theories are completely at odds with the reality I see on winter days.

My point exactly.

[ywgwalk]

Originally Posted by esquire

I don't know why you windchill militants are the way you are

You answered your own question.

Originally Posted by esquire

Yet, the same parks and playgrounds that are busy on a nice day are utterly abandoned on high windchill days.

Windchill the way it is unnecessarily simplifies what should be two separate considerations:

- How cold is it (how layered up do I need to be)
- How quickly will exposed skin freeze (how careful do I need to be to cover my face)

They are very different and used to be nicely represented by two different numbers that didn't "look" the same.

Windchill "looking" like temperature keeps people inside when they just need to cover their face.

Nevermind that people keep thinking we're hitting these crazy cold temperatures, when we aren't. Bartley Kives had a fun ancedote:

Attendant: The car wash is closed. We close it below -30.
Me: It’s only -25.
Attendant: No it isn’t. It’s -40.
Me: It hasn’t been -40 in Winnipeg since 2007.
Attendant: [blank stare]
Me: May I please use the car wash?
Attendant: It’s -40. Don’t you listen to the news?

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1087050829780172801

[esquire]

^ Good luck with your mission to convince hundreds of thousands of Winnipeggers that it's all a misunderstanding and they need to just remember to wear a scarf.

[buzzg]

Most scarves are fabric and thus, do not keep out the wind.

[Riverman]

Expressing windchill as a temperature value is too confusing for most people. It was expressed in watts/metre squared which made far more sense.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by ywgwalk

But as soon as you've protected yourself from the wind (say with a scarf) it becomes completely irrelevant again.

Lmao. Have you literally never been outside before? A scarf negates windchill?

A calm fridged day is far more comfortable than a milder windy day. Windchill affects far more than exposed skin, it cuts through your scarf or coat.

[bomberjet]

The effects of wind chill are real yes. -53c wind chill is not a real temperature. As others mentioned. It's a calculated number based on some formula. Is this semantics, maybe.

It hasn't been -50c in Winnipeg since when? Ever? But people say this all the time.

Anyways, a rating system would be better, such as mild to severe. Also you need to be in the wind to get the effects of wind chill. Like the gas station attendant, this gets misinterpreted. Although it does get the point across that's it's cold.

Funny enough, this was a topic of discussion during a recent safety talk at work. The presenter, who is a newer immigrant to Canada, did not understand at all that the wind chill values were not real temps. They were never exposed to the wattage rating system in place 2 decades ago.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

The effects of wind chill are real yes. -53c wind chill is not a real temperature. As others mentioned. It's a calculated number based on some formula. Is this semantics, maybe.

It hasn't been -50c in Winnipeg since when? Ever? But people say this all the time.

Anyways, a rating system would be better, such as mild to severe. Also you need to be in the wind to get the effects of wind chill. Like the gas station attendant, this gets misinterpreted. Although it does get the point across that's it's cold.

Funny enough, this was a topic of discussion during a recent safety talk at work. The presenter, who is a newer immigrant to Canada, did not understand at all that the wind chill values were not real temps. They were never exposed to the wattage rating system in place 2 decades ago.

Agreed. "Feels like -30" is always more uncomfortable than actual -30 with no wind. The two are not the same thing. They should really bring back the old method of reporting. I guess the stopped using it because people didn't understand that.

As for the car wash attendant, I guess it depends on the rationale for not opening the car wash. My assumption is it has nothing to do with the comfort of the users, and he clearly doesn't comprehend that inanimate don't get colder than the ambient temperature because of wind chill.