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Old Posted Nov 17, 2013, 11:57 PM
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The New Plan

OK, here's how it should go, folks. We are now absolved of any "2 sports bars", "2 restaurants", "1 starbucks", rules via the Braves, right?? Assuming that... let's develop the F*CK out of all the giant surface lots: rebuild a street-grid, wrap everything with retail on the ground floors and condos/apartments above. Take over everything the Recreational Authority is in charge now and build, baby, build. We don't have to follow the Braves rules, right? Now, get it all going in the next year or two and then woo a team who would just die to play somewhere as awesome as Turner Field: Oh, let's say the Tampa Bay Rays..... Southside AL team and the venerable Northside NL'er team (Braves). Wouldn't the Rays just die to be in The Ted???
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An unusually insightful piece.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2013, 6:51 PM
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OK, here's how it should go, folks. We are now absolved of any "2 sports bars", "2 restaurants", "1 starbucks", rules via the Braves, right?? Assuming that... let's develop the F*CK out of all the giant surface lots: rebuild a street-grid, wrap everything with retail on the ground floors and condos/apartments above. Take over everything the Recreational Authority is in charge now and build, baby, build. We don't have to follow the Braves rules, right?
I think that is what will happen. While I don't believe the stadium area was ever under the control of the Braves' "wish list," their departure could be the catalyst to some long overdue redevelopment.

As I recall there's already a TAD in place so the developers should be able to hit the ground running.
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2013, 10:13 PM
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Atlanta Braves plan $400 million entertainment district surrounding new Cobb stadium

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The Atlanta Braves unveiled plans on Wednesday for the $400 million entertainment district that would spring up beside the new $672 million stadium that’s set to open in 2017.

The district, which is still in early planning phases, would feature a street lined with retail, restaurants and bars leading up to the stadium. A ring of trees and greenspace would surround the stadium and entertainment district, and a small amphitheater would be at the center of the development.

“No one in the country has ever built a brand new sports facility and created this kind of development at the same time,” Braves executive Mike Plant told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “We believe this is the best example of a private-public partnership. And this has been a key part of this from day one.”
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Wouldn't a Cobb Stadium have to be approved by ARC, with a required traffic study?
http://www.atlantaregional.com/land-...egional-impact
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Wouldn't a Cobb Stadium have to be approved by ARC, with a required traffic study?
http://www.atlantaregional.com/land-...egional-impact
Yes, DRIs are required by the State, not just ARC.

This said, you can't make a project pay for any existing deficiencies, only site generated impacts. As such, DRIs usually focus on driveway location, design, etc., not major off site upgrades.
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Fulton official organizes group to fight for Braves

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Fulton County Commission Chairman John Eaves held a meeting Monday night attended by several county officials and Atlanta City Council members to organize a grassroots effort to try to keep the Atlanta Braves in Atlanta.

Fewer than 10 people were there, but they are serious about trying to persuade the team not to relocate to Cobb County, reports Atlanta Business Chronicle broadcast partner WXIA-TV.

Eaves was short on details, but said the group is getting together a counteroffer.

Eaves said the group thinks they have a shot if Cobb Commissioners fail Tuesday to approve a “memorandum of understanding” with the team.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/m...-group-to.html
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Cobb Commissioners approve partial funding for future Braves stadium

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The Cobb County Commission approved by a 4 to 1 vote plans for a new $672 million Braves stadium in its backyard.

The crucial vote — which directs $300 million in taxpayer dollars to the development — comes just two weeks and a day after the Braves made a stunning announcement the team was moving from downtown Atlanta to the suburbs.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/cobb-co...ing-on-/nb5MZ/
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Atlanta still doesn't understand regionalism

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Regionalism in metro Atlanta is such a tough concept to grasp.

It is not about each county or city government having its own international airport, its own professional sports stadium or its own water and sewer system.

Regionalism is about investing in regional assets that serve the entire 10-county or 20-county region.

A move to Cobb by the Braves would have been unnecessary if we only knew how to act like a region and govern in a business-like manner. After all, the first choice of the Atlanta Braves had been to renew their lease at Turner Field. The Braves, however, wanted to be able to operate out of Turner Field without the interference of the Recreation Authority.


When we talk about sharing the cost of our region’s infrastructure, that does not mean duplicating an existing stadium that was built tax free by building a new $672 million stadium14 miles away that will cost Cobb County taxpayers at least $300 million in an already traffic-congested area with no rail transit and no plans for rail transit.

That is not regionalism. That is one county government looking out for its own self interest at the expense of another government that wasn’t able to get its act together to keep the Atlanta Braves at Turner Field.


http://saportareport.com/blog/2013/1...d-regionalism/
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This is a bit dated, but some of you may find it useful and informative
http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.or...0/7/coates.pdf
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Can they extend rail service to new Braves stadium? Will they consider it? They need transportation. They need a ride. I knows Cobb County has no public transportation.
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Can they extend rail service to new Braves stadium? Will they consider it? They need transportation. They need a ride. I knows Cobb County has no public transportation.
Cobb County does have public transit, it's just not very expansive or frequent. They could potentially run an express bus from downtown/midtown Atlanta to the stadium on game days, but they don't even seem to be in favor of that small step: BRT proposal nixed from memorandum of understanding between Braves, commissioners.

Rail to the stadium won't happen. It would cost in excess of one billion dollars, and it's politically unpopular. Cobb County overwhelmingly voted down a proposal last year that would have included premium transit from Midtown Atlanta up to Cumberland. Overall, transportation options to get to this new stadium would pretty much be a diasaster.

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Atlanta officials air frustrations with Braves negotiations, move

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/n...gotiation.html

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Atlanta wasn't willing to match Cobb County's offer of a new stadium to keep the Braves at Turner Field.
But that didn't stop city officials from expressing frustration with the sudden announcement last month of the deal to move the Braves to a new stadium in the Cobb Galleria area.

"My phone and e-mail are blowing up about a report in today's Marietta Daily Journal claiming Braves plan to move to Cobb County," Carlos Campos, interim communications director for Mayor Kasim Reed, wrote in an e-mail to city Chief Operating Officer Duriya Farooqui and others in the mayor's administration Nov. 11, the day the Braves and Cobb County made their agreement public. "We are being asked for comment. Anyone? I'm clueless."

City officials expressed similar sentiments but in more colorful language.
"They are not going to call themselves the Cobb Crackers, or the Smyrna Shitholes," deputy COO Hans Utz wrote in an e-mail, "They will still be the Atlanta Braves, and that is an indication of the value of the city."
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Any further word about who will handle redevelopment of the Ted site?

It must have been known that the Braves were leaving since the city announced the next day that the structure would be torn down. Given that redoing the stadium area has been under discussion for several years, there might well be some fairly advanced plans in the pipeline.

I read the other day that the Chinese are snapping up downtown property so maybe they will come in and do some massive project!
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Can they extend rail service to new Braves stadium? Will they consider it? They need transportation. They need a ride. I knows Cobb County has no public transportation.
Even if Cobb approved having MARTA, MARTA moves so slow to construct lines that by the time they got to the site, the team would be moving again somewhere else.
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I like the idea of the Alpharetta Braves - then we can legitimately keep the "A" on the cap.
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I like the idea of the Alpharetta Braves - then we can legitimately keep the "A" on the cap.
This isn't directed towards you...but does it really matter where the team is located as far as the name? The NY Giants and Jets played in Jeresy for years...the 49ers new stadium will be 40 miles away from San Fran. These are just a few examples. They all kept the name of its major city.
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This isn't directed towards you...but does it really matter where the team is located as far as the name? The NY Giants and Jets played in Jeresy for years...the 49ers new stadium will be 40 miles away from San Fran. These are just a few examples. They all kept the name of its major city.
Actually I agree with you. The sooner we begin to think of "Atlanta" as the greater metro area and not just that little 8% that is the political Atlanta the better. Unfortunately they have not had the wisdom nor power to annex here in Georgia - in reality, most of Fulton, Cobb, Dekalb and parts of Gwinnett should have long become Atlanta City. Laughingly many of the major companies and institutions here (like CDC for example) are not in Atlanta but always claim to be. Whoever heard of the CDC located in unincorporated Dekalb?

The American city municipalities system is quite screwed up. I read years ago that the NYC metro consisted of some 1700 separate municipalities. Probably more now. let's see, that is some 1700 Mayors, Directors of Finance, Fire chiefs, Police Chiefs and dogcatchers. What an incredibly inefficient organization system. I am not opposed to some local and community input, but I don't think you need a mayor for every wide spot in the road.

And they will still be the Atlanta Braves - even if they move to Alpharetta in 20 years.
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