PARIS | La Défense (13 New Towers) - Page 6

Fabb · #**101** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 11:51 AM**

Breaking news : Aurore to be demolished.

The 110 m office building in La Défense (and an adjacent low rise) will be replaced by a tall tower. The plan is still being negociated. Details are unknown but a famous architect is rumored to be in charge of the design.

sentinel · #**102** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 2:34 PM**

Too bad, looks like a nice building already..

Alliance · #**103** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 8:34 PM**

except for the giant electrical plugs on every floor.

Grumpy · #**104** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 8:43 PM**

A pity , I love the boldness of Aurore

Fabb · #**105** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 9:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alliance

except for the giant electrical plugs on every floor.

That's because work is in progress in the tower (asbestos removal).

kenratboy · #**106** Posted **Feb 14, 2007, 11:12 PM**

Weak!!!

A city full of buildings that all look the same (flame suit on), and they are tearing down that tall building!?

Minato Ku · #**107** Posted **Mar 13, 2007, 5:44 PM**

Tour Signal

This Brisavoine post posted in an other forum

Sorry I am very lazy I will not rewrite this

Quote:

Originally Posted by brisavoine

Great news on the French forum. It is confirmed that the "tour Signal" is distinct from the "tour Phare". You may remember that in the beginning it was announced that a so-called "tour Signal" would be built to symbolize the regeneration of La Défense. Then last November it was Thom Mayne's 300m tower that was selected, and the project was renamed "tour Phare". Then two months ago, during his New Year's "good wishes" press conference, the director of La Défense Authority (EPAD) hinted that the "tour Signal" was a project still alive and distinct from the "tour Phare". I wrote about that in a message some weeks ago here, but some forumers doubted my information. Now it is confirmed by EPAD itself! One French forumer asked on the official La Défense forum whether the "tour Signal" was distinct from the "tour Phare", and the admin from EPAD said YES. You can see it here if you can read French: http://www.ladefense.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=792

The fact that EPAD answered is quite remarkable. Usually they are pretty secret about what's going on in La Défense, so I was very surprised to discover this on the French forum. Especially since we are in the middle of a bitter presidential election in France, it's surprising that they answered the French forumer. They must feel quite confident about the "tour Signal" project.

According to the admin, this "tour Signal" would house the Ministry of Public Works. It had long been rumored that the ministry was planning to leave the Grande Arche where its offices are currently located, and build its own tower. Now it's confirmed, and this new tower they'd build for their offices would be the "tour Signal". Also, initially it was rumored the ministry was planning to build 80,000 m² (860,000 sq. ft) of office space, but now it was reported in the French press that they're planning to build 100,000m² (1,075,000 sq. ft). So this born-again "tour Signal" would contain 100,000 m² of office space if the ministry is the only occupier. That means the "tour Signal" would be at least 200m (600 ft) high, perhaps more. For comparisons, the 310m (1,1018 ft) US Bank Tower in LA contains 120,000 m² (1.3 million sq. ft) of office space, so the ministry is not envisioning something small.

The admin said that an architect contest would be launched to select the design of the "tour Signal". It is quite probable that we will have no renderings until the winning project is selected, same as what happened with the "tour Phare". If you re-read what I wrote here a few weeks ago, I reported this rumor that Ferrier's 335m tower could be chosen as the design for the "tour Signal" because Ferrier was furious at the way Thom Mayne's project had been chosen for the "tour Phare" (Thom Mayne didn't respect the budget assigned to contestants). Now the EPAD admin said there would be an architect contest for the "tour Signal", so what of Ferrier's tower? Perhaps Ferrier will be allowed to take part in this new contest, with a more serious chance to win this time. I don't know. Personally, I would love if Ferrier's tower is built. It's by far the most beautiful tower that I've seen proposed in La Défense.

In any case, let's remember that this "tour Signal" for the Ministry of Public Works will be a State project (unlike Generali Tower or "tour Phare" which are private projects), so it is most sensitive to political changes. Should the Socialists win back power next May-June, there's a great likelihood it would be cancelled if their recent anti-La Défense stances are to be taken at face value.

Anyway, I can't resist putting again some pictures of Ferrier's 335m (1,100 ft) tower, for those who haven't seen it already.

This is my message

According the magazine of Haut de Seine departement "92 Express" the height of Tour Signal should be around 300m

Tour Signal will be the sister of Tour Phare.
Article warning,the height of this PDf is 9 Mb

And an official source from the senat
From the start of the plan Defense 2015 Tour Signal and Tour Phare was distinct.

Sorry it is in french because I am lazy.

Quote:

Afin de « relancer » le quartier, le directeur général de l'EPAD a proposé le 2 décembre 2005 au conseil d'administration de l'établissement le Projet « La Défense 2015 », plan de développement prévoyant notamment la construction de 850.000 m² de bureaux et 100.000 m² de nouveaux logements, l'édification de deux tours de plus de 300 mètres de haut (Tour Signal et Tour Phare) et la rénovation de tours existantes.

Here

skylife · #**108** Posted **Mar 13, 2007, 7:01 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ I don't see anything American about it. Those highrises are much more stylish and architecturally interesting than anything going up in the US. In a sense, it's highrise design with a French touch..

Skyscraper skylines are an iconic and original American aesthetic. Just like the wide boulevards in DC are meant to emulate European cities, especially Paris, Paris (and most major cities in the world) is clearly aiming for an iconic US-style skyline though they would never admit it. And I don't see anything particularly special about these. Except some are especially ugly.

Grumpy · #**109** Posted **Sep 30, 2007, 8:14 PM**

And after six month is there news about le Tour Signal ?

Fabb · #**110** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 12:42 PM**

No.
But a new rendering of Phare :

Nowhereman1280 · #**111** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 3:05 PM**

^^^ Oh God, is it just me or did that Amoeba just grow a serrated spine? Look at the left edge, it looks like it has a serrated edge now! UGGG!

Minato Ku · #**112** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 5:35 PM**

Other renderings

Photos link

Alliance · #**113** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 5:44 PM**

Em...ew. That flat side is atrocious.

dallasbrink · #**114** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 5:58 PM**

looks like someone ripped off the top then cut it down the building and put it in the middle of paris.

R@ptor · #**115** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 8:55 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alliance

Em...ew. That flat side is atrocious.

My thoughts exactly. I always assumed it would be round on every side.

NYguy · #**116** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 9:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabb

a new rendering of Phare :

Godzilla, finally tired of Japanese food, decides to dine on French...

Minato Ku · #**117** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 9:57 PM**

The same for Paris, nobody know that Paris build more office than New York and London.

According the latest Jonas Paris crane survey there is 1,650,000m² (17,760,453 sq ft) of office space under in construction in Paris and the inner suburbs.
Note that doesn't include office buildings under 1,000m² and the high numbers of office under in construction oulter suburbs.

Only cities like Bejing, Shanghai or Moscow build more office.

La Defense have only 8% of Paris total office space. (49 million m² or 527 million sq ft)
Paris is actually the third city in the world in office space (after Tokyo and New York)

Paris is not overrated, Paris is unknow, I invite you to see this thread http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=129872 and you will see the real Paris.

Paris has a GDP of €500.8 billion (US$628.9 billion), It host more Fortune Global 500 entreprises HQ than any city in the world execpt Tokyo.

Paris is view as a touristic museum monocultural city city but the reality it is the oposite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy

Godzilla, finally tired of Japanese food, decides to dine on French...

Actually there is so many Japanese restaurants in Paris (Most are old chinese restaurant which become japanese for increase their prices and the food is pretty bad).
If Godzilla like Starbucks and sushi la Defense is perfect.

NYguy · #**118** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 10:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minato Ku

The same for Paris, nobody know that Paris build more office than New York and London.

According the latest Jonas Paris crane survey there is 1,650,000m² (17,760,453 sq ft) of office space under in construction in Paris and the inner suburbs.
Note that doesn't include office buildings under 1,000m² and the high numbers of office under in construction oulter suburbs.

Not accurate or true, at least as far as New York goes. We're not even talking suburbs.

Minato Ku · #**119** Posted **Oct 10, 2007, 10:52 PM**

Edit

aeathin2 · #**120** Posted **Oct 11, 2007, 1:54 AM**

That building looks like it is in its third trimester.