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Old Posted Mar 4, 2017, 11:04 AM
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Another wavy building, yay. Put me down as an old design fan.
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2017, 11:34 AM
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Another wavy building, yay. Put me down as an old design fan.
How many wavy buildings like that do they have in Vancouver already?
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Old Posted Mar 4, 2017, 5:06 PM
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Umm, none. Downtown at least. Well, there is the one Aquilini tower at Roger's Arena just completing, but that hardly counts.
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Umm, none. Downtown at least. Well, there is the one Aquilini tower at Roger's Arena just completing, but that hardly counts.
Thank you for the clarification. So it's not green spandrel, not hokey angles ... a refreshing change, I'd say. For that part of Vancouver, anyway.
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Wavy walls are the new protruding box - they're sprouting up everywhere. I don't hate the design, but it will be "late 2010s cliche" in 10 years.
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Yeah, I don't like this one either. It looks like it'll be very similar to the Westin hotel, which I am definitely not a fan of.
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Wavy walls are the new protruding box - they're sprouting up everywhere. I don't hate the design, but it will be "late 2010s cliche" in 10 years.
I don't mind either, actually, tlhough you are completely correct. I just hope the current spandrel trend would finally pass, but it feels like it has only intensified recently with every new building having spandrel at least somewhere.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2017, 9:21 PM
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Question if you have the time and resources ....

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Wavy walls are the new protruding box - they're sprouting up everywhere. I don't hate the design, but it will be "late 2010s cliche" in 10 years.
I find that interesting. Would it be too invasive to perhaps ask you if you can come up with other examples from the web wherever? Be nice to compare, count, and evaluate. Thnx
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2017, 9:37 PM
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I just hope the current spandrel trend would finally pass, but it feels like it has only intensified recently with every new building having spandrel at least somewhere.
It's our leaky condo crisis V2.0. The point where we are now is basically where the first debacle was in about the early 90's. A few new buildings have already been repaired with more failing on the horizon. However we are doubling down on these problematic window wall and curtain wall designs.

It's not necessarily the system but the higher maintenance associated with it and how many stratas prefer to defer costly repairs. Many owners and investors would plan on selling in the near future so do not see the benefit of huge investment in a fairly new building. It undermines the concept that your home is your best asset.

IMO It's the main problem with buying a unit before the building is built, you have no real guarantee of what exactly the facade will be or the quality of the work or if it has been engineered appropriately for our climate. Buildings used to be made of materials that would last 50+ years without a second thought, now housing takes more of our income than ever yet the quality of the investment is lower than it has ever been.

(noted this is an office building)
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Agreed with everything you say, retro_orange.

Most new buildings and suites only look nice and high quality in pictures or when looked from afar. Nothing in these new buildings is going to last long and renovations will be common thing.

I would be hesitant to buy anything even if I could afford it. Nothing I have seen justifies the prices being asked and I just can't see a long-term investment in the condos built in the last 15 years.
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We've put a picture of the model that the UDP approved on the Changing City blog. https://changingcitybook.com/2017/03...nville-street/

Hey, I guess everyone knows that Kohn, Pederson, Fox designed this one that got approved. After the wonderful MNP design, I've developed a rather implicit faith in their work.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 2:20 AM
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320 Granville goes to the DPB on April 3rd:

Report here:
http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commit...2016-00666.pdf

Appendix C (with renderings) here:
http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commit...appendix-c.pdf


The concept sketch looked so much better than the proposed form - at the base:


http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commit...appendix-c.pdf
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 4:32 AM
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The concept sketch looked so much better than the proposed form - at the base:


http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commit...appendix-c.pdf
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what the hell happened?!?!
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I think the reflective glass on the model messes with the very minute details of this tower. Hopefully, the glass will be more complimentary with the shape and details of the building.
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what the hell happened?!?!
Probably the desire for larger floorpates - given the height limitation.
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Probably the desire for larger floorpates - given the height limitation.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 5:55 PM
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Viewcones, but of course....

Although the pencil-sketch rendering shows the same number of floors as the model, I do think that if they were allowed to go taller, they could include more features at the base with a thinner tower.

I think instead of enforcing restrictions like viewcones, the City should concentrate more on architectural excellence and economic benefits of city centre projects.

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I think the reflective glass on the model messes with the very minute details of this tower. Hopefully, the glass will be more complimentary with the shape and details of the building.
Highly doubt the city will allow reflective glass on this one, should be the soft curtain wall we've seen on the most recent round of towers.


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I think instead of enforcing restrictions like viewcones, the City should concentrate more on architectural excellence and economic benefits of city centre projects.
Good god Vin and I agree on something, and it's not even April fools.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 8:32 PM
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Good god Vin and I agree on something, and it's not even April fools.
Fact is, there are more than one thing we agree on that you don't know of; they are just not voiced out.
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