SAN FRANCISCO | Trinity Place | 240 FT / 73 M | 24 FLOORS

[BTinSF]

This project finally received approvals from the Board of Supervisors after endless delays and debates, first at the Planning Commission and then on appeal, at the Board. But now it's a go--assuming the developer, Angelo Sangiacomo, can get financing. In another thread, word came that things are moving:

Originally Posted by o0OoJAMIE-IN-SFo0Oo

As for Trinity, we just got drawings last week. I believe Cannon signed on to build it. Project should be kicking off in the next few weeks.

So I figured it's time to give this monster from Arquitectonica, that I hope will change mid-Market St. forever, a thread of its own.



It will have 1900 units and will replace this somewhat ugly structure:



The available renderings:

[Busy Bee]

Wow, that looks phat and fat. Aquitectonica definitely has a style... this just seems a little bit more Beijingy than San Francisco. Still cool though.

[oldpainless]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Aquitectonica definitely has a style... this just seems a little bit more Beijingy than San Francisco. Still cool though.

Ha, well both cities are communist.

[Reminiscence]

Definetly a big improvement over whats there now. If the news about iminent construction is true, then this thread may not be in this forum for long, lets hope thats the case because we've been waiting for a long time for this one. This is one I'll watch going up for sure.

[alleystreetindustry]

i wish we had that in atlanta. super sui generis.

[PBuchman]

Here are a couple of additional renderings, that give some context to the project:

[BTinSF]

^^^So it appears the taller parts are toward Mission St. (to 24 stories--I'm using the figures given in the "Compilations" thread here and also from counting the floors in the second rendering I posted above). I wasn't clear on that before. But at 13-16 stories along Market St., it seems to make a nice streetwall (better than I previously understood).

Someone was talking about the views of SOMA Grand on its thread, but it seems like this will pretty much block those.

[FourOneFive]

Yes, the market street buildings will only be 12-13 stories (~120'), and the buildings on mission will step up to 24 stories or 240'. all of the western views from the soma grand will be completely walled off once this project is completed considering the mass and height of the trinity buildings lining mission street.

[tyler82]

How many of these units are going to be "affordable" or is the developer doing what many others (shamelessly) do and put them on another low income part of town?

[BTinSF]

Originally Posted by tyler82

How many of these units are going to be "affordable" or is the developer doing what many others (shamelessly) do and put them on another low income part of town?

My recollection is that what Chris Daly "negotiated" was 12% affordable. McGoldrick wanted 15% but didn't get it. Still, I believe the "affordable" units will all be on site and furthermore the existing tenants will be allowed to rent units in the new buildings at their existing rents (plus, I'm sure, whatever increases they could have gotten under the rent control ordinance).

What "low income part of town" are you referring to? I've been looking for a cheap part of San Francisco for 25 years.

[Frisco_Zig]

Originally Posted by tyler82

How many of these units are going to be "affordable" or is the developer doing what many others (shamelessly) do and put them on another low income part of town?

The only thing shameful is the hoops that had to be jumped through to appease everyone on this project. Lots to read

I am not sure I get why affordable housing in "low income" areas is shameful at all.

[SleepyInSanFrancisco]

Originally Posted by tyler82

How many of these units are going to be "affordable" or is the developer doing what many others (shamelessly) do and put them on another low income part of town?

"The terms of the approved proposal calls for 1,900 units of which 360 will be deed restricted rent-controlled (and offered to the current Trinity Plaza residents) and an additional 231 will be designated below market rate (BMR).

At the same time, a condo map will be approved for the project (“after the developer pointed out the 40% increase in construction costs”) but will not extend to the 360 rent-controlled units."

From Trinity Plaza One Big Step Closer To Reality (And Condos?) on SocketSite.

[Reminiscence]

Wow, to me it looks even bigger in those renderings. Perhaps its because I'm comparing it to its future neighbors. Thanks for sharing those renderings.

[rajaxsonbayboi]

How many square feet does this cover?

[pseudolus]

looks much better in the first renderings than the "additional"

[BTinSF]

Originally Posted by pseudolus

looks much better in the first renderings than the "additional"

This is going to be "mass market" rental housing. Think a downtown version of Park Merced. But that's what San Francisco really needs: rental housing that a reasonable number of "regular folks" can afford. You can't do that in glassy towers with Bay views. It probably can only be done in big, chunky, hulking buildings with no views worth mentioning. But we need it none the less and mid-Market is a good place for it because that area needs people living there in large numbers and walking around to put life in those panhandler-infested, deserted-at-night sidewalks.

[Frisco_Zig]

Originally Posted by BTinSF

This is going to be "mass market" rental housing. Think a downtown version of Park Merced. But that's what San Francisco really needs: rental housing that a reasonable number of "regular folks" can afford. You can't do that in glassy towers with Bay views. It probably can only be done in big, chunky, hulking buildings with no views worth mentioning. But we need it none the less and mid-Market is a good place for it because that area needs people living there in large numbers and walking around to put life in those panhandler-infested, deserted-at-night sidewalks.

Again only possible because of unusual circumstances. BOS really don't care about "mass market" housing

[trvlr70]

I don't hate it!

[tyler82]

You guys wouldn't consider BayView Hunter's Point, parts of Western Addition, Outer Mission, Ingleside low income areas? Wow, you guys really need to get out more :-)

It seems that whenver I read about these new great properties going up, , the developers are talking about building the required portion of affordable units in projects in Hunter's Point etc. where there is still land available cheaply (cheaper, that is) than having it incorporated into their own buildings. It's sheer snobbery , and I think that the laws should be changed to force the affordable units inside the properties they are building, after all, most of SF citizens make the "average" amount of income and make this city the great city that it is by actually giving it life (as opposed to sitting our fat asses on large amounts of unused money), so why should we have to be pushed aside into the crime ridden or otherwise residential and boring areas of the city just because we don't make a bijillion dollars.

Granted I can't list a specific example, but I know that it has happened in the past

Trinity looks amazing and I can't wait until it is built, it's going to be such a great addition for people who can't pay $3,000/ mo. for a one bedroom. I think more of this should be going up in SOMA, Rincon Hill, and other places so that those of us with soul and vitality (the non- billionaires) can actually give life to these upcoming areas.

[FacedectomalFenestra]

I posted these in the compilation thread and was advised to post here as well, so...... here they are!