Community Development - Blatchford - Page 27

Black Star · #**521** Posted **Mar 7, 2011, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Future councils aren't bound to past councils, and there are elections every 3 years. When the last shutdown timeline approved in my recollection was in the decades, there is plenty of time for this group and others to turn it around.

Like Tato isn't saying DA plane DA plane anymore to Mr Rourke...We wont be saying it ever again in a couple more years. So for you it is also time to get off Fantasy Island.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_QbVDlLbI

Top_Dawg · #**522** Posted **Mar 16, 2011, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by edmontonenthusiast

^The airport should be closed for a few reasons. First and foremost is the fact that it is highly underutilized (keep in mind this was once Edmonton's main port) and the airlines and passengers that have moved to the newer, larger Edmonton International have no reason to move back. Why keep open something when it is barely being used and could be used much better for something else?

Top_Dawg goes along with that.

Top_Dawg · #**523** Posted **Mar 16, 2011, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by edmontonenthusiast

Also, the site has tremendous potential to become a massive, dense transit orientated district of 35 000 people that would likely otherwise be producing demand for new suburbs over top of farmland. It would also enhance Edmonton's "urban scene."

Nope. Top_Dawg can't see this.

Not after the way this mayor and his fellow cawkgobblers

morgentalered this thing.

Tremendous potential ?

For what ?

The only tremendous potential Top_Dawg sees with any of the proposals is for a "urban ghetto".

Harrison · #**524** Posted **Mar 16, 2011, 10:53 PM**

So Top_Dawg, having 35,000 people living in an area the size of the City Centre Airport is considered a "ghetto"? Given the population density of Manhattan at 27,394 people per square kilometre, that borough of New York must surely be this "urban ghetto" you speak of.

SHOFEAR · #**525** Posted **Mar 16, 2011, 11:13 PM**

Its rather hilarious that you have one crowd using the arguement that it will be filled with nothing but rich yuppies and the average person wont be able to afford to live there, while others that it will be a dense ghetto filled with crime.

Top_Dawg · #**526** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 6:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by SHOFEAR

Its rather hilarious that you have one crowd using the arguement that it will be filled with nothing but rich yuppies and the average person wont be able to afford to live there, while others that it will be a dense ghetto filled with crime.

Ye-e-es,

Now Top_Dawg is no Descartes.

Or John Ralston Saul.

But Top_Dawg recognizes this as the seminal moment of a disorder he calls municipal bipolar syndrome.

Two decades have been spent pushing all the crack dens, seedy bars, eight ballers, gum job divas and B&E Ph.Ds further and further east along Alberta Avenue and into Beverly.

'Course for every yin there's a yang.

Having maxed it's logistical eastern boundary, this collective scourge is forced to breach new frontiers.

But where ?

North ?

Perhaps.

But not likely.

South ?

No.

That's from where it was pushed out in the '80s.

So the only logical resolution remains west.

Smack in the middle of this proposed green city within a city.

And the timing couldn't be more perfect.

That is what Top_Dawg's crystal ball reveals.

240glt · #**527** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 9:16 PM**

^ One constant you're missing in that equation though is that the riff raff moves into areas that are neglected by the city, case in point are the examples you made. No developer is going to build something that will fall into immediate disrepair

The big wild card is what's going to happen to all the north edge dwellers when the Arena & surrounding development gets going, or even when the Epcor tower starts to occupy. I imagine that Qualico will be once again working it's connections with city hall to relocate that problem, the question is where ? Not the CCA though, becuase at the time being there is nothing there for even the bums to take advantage of.

Harrison · #**528** Posted **Mar 17, 2011, 10:27 PM**

^ Well I'm sure that the Boyle Renaissance project will alleviate some of the problems caused by the migration of the said homeless population. I am not quite sure of the capacity of the project however, guessing it will house a couple hundred at most.

240glt · #**529** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 4:00 PM**

Boyle Renaissance will help a lot of people (I hope) but the real problem is the hardcore homeless who are not housable or employable

kcantor · #**530** Posted **Mar 18, 2011, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by 240glt

^ One constant you're missing in that equation though is that the riff raff moves into areas that are neglected by the city, case in point are the examples you made. No developer is going to build something that will fall into immediate disrepair

The big wild card is what's going to happen to all the north edge dwellers when the Arena & surrounding development gets going, or even when the Epcor tower starts to occupy. I imagine that Qualico will be once again working it's connections with city hall to relocate that problem, the question is where ? Not the CCA though, becuase at the time being there is nothing there for even the bums to take advantage of.

we have never "worked our connections with city hall to relocate that problem". we have however, been active supporters of many proactive programs such as ihuman and downtown proud to name just a couple that deserve naming. our support has always been unconditional and desirous of mitigating and eventually eliminating the problems, not simply to relocate them.

Black Star · #**531** Posted **Mar 19, 2011, 12:04 AM**

^That's really good to hear. And a refreshing corporate attitude.

These problems dont go away because the address changes as most of us know. We as small business owners or or Corporate heavy weights like Qualico have to do our part.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**532** Posted **Jun 22, 2011, 10:39 PM**

Perkins and Will chosen for CCA redevelopment

Hallsy's Toupee · #**533** Posted **Jun 22, 2011, 10:41 PM**

http://www.edmonton.ca/city_governme...velopment.aspx

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Congratulations to Perkins + Will, from Vancouver, Canada, who were endorsed by City Council to develop a master plan and lead one of Edmonton’s largest land transformations in decades.

Perkins + Will was chosen from three international finalists to help transform the City Centre Airport lands into a sustainable, transit-oriented, family-friendly community.

The City, along with Perkins + Will, will negotiate a contract over the next month that will detail the project deliverables, the work plan schedule and the public engagement plan.

This website is one way people can become informed, be part of the decision making process and get regular updates on the progress of this project.

SpongeG · #**534** Posted **Jun 23, 2011, 2:14 AM**

looks cool

rapid_business · #**535** Posted **Jun 23, 2011, 1:54 PM**

I was hoping for the KCAP design, but I am just as happy Perkins + Will will be the design team leading the project. Some of the densities will likely have to change, and there will need to be a better integration and vision of the LRT on the site, but otherwise, knowing their track record, it will be great to have them leading this project.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**536** Posted **Jun 23, 2011, 1:57 PM**

I would like to see the plans include an extension of 109 St to Yellowhead Trail.

amor de cosmos · #**537** Posted **Jun 23, 2011, 3:35 PM**

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Perkins + Will chosen to lead Edmonton's City Centre Airport Lands redevelopment
2011-06-23

Vancouver-based Perkins + Will has been selected to lead one of Edmonton's largest land transformations in decades. The firm was chosen from three international finalists to develop a master plan to redevelop the City Centre Airport lands into a sustainable transit-oriented family-friendly community for up to approximately 30,000 residents. The Edmonton consultant firms working with Perkins + Will are Group 2 Architecture Engineering Ltd. and Alberta Western Heritage.

http://www.canadianarchitect.com/new...nt/1000489772/