Greater Vancouver Population to Grow 40% by 2041 - Page 2

GlassCity · #21 Posted **Jan 12, 2020, 10:34 PM**

What needs to happen is to start densifying outside of corridors into radial zones around rapid transit. Marine Gateway is great - now redevelop all the SFH areas within 800m of it. Doesn't just have to be apartment buildings around SkyTrain either. Get some rowhouse developments going in regular sleepy neighbourhoods along frequent bus lines throughout the region. Vancouver's rental-side-street policy, whatever it's called, is a step in the right direction.

Sheba · #22 Posted **Jan 13, 2020, 3:35 AM**

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Maybe I am misunderstanding your perspective on this but in theory I would think that office would be the most compatible with the bars and clubs. Typically an office-like business will operate Monday-Friday 09:00 - 17:00 whereas bars and clubs would operate 20:00 - 02:30am Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Again in theory their "busy" hours don't even intersect with each other. The only thing that I can really think of is that a standalone office tower would have a retail podium that would only be profitable if the bar/club brought business everyday.

The Red Room (Richards and Hastings) is a club at the bottom of an office tower. When they have live bands in, they have to wait to load in their gear as the tower won't let them until after the offices close. Usually they show up around mid-afternoon, so waiting a few hours and then having to hurry to load in and do sound check before 7pm (doors tend to open early nowadays) doesn't make for an ideal situation.

fredinno · #23 Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

The Red Room (Richards and Hastings) is a club at the bottom of an office tower. When they have live bands in, they have to wait to load in their gear as the tower won't let them until after the offices close. Usually they show up around mid-afternoon, so waiting a few hours and then having to hurry to load in and do sound check before 7pm (doors tend to open early nowadays) doesn't make for an ideal situation.

Would better soundproofing be able to overcome those sorts of problems? They did for NEFC- and stadiums are not quiet.

I actually think the lack of towers on rezoned along Robson is a bigger deal. No one can complain about Luxury Condos on a Luxury shopping area. Instead we just get 3 stories max.

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Originally Posted by GlassCity

What needs to happen is to start densifying outside of corridors into radial zones around rapid transit. Marine Gateway is great - now redevelop all the SFH areas within 800m of it. Doesn't just have to be apartment buildings around SkyTrain either. Get some rowhouse developments going in regular sleepy neighbourhoods along frequent bus lines throughout the region. Vancouver's rental-side-street policy, whatever it's called, is a step in the right direction.

So a couple more apartments to the west?

Migrant_Coconut · #24 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 2:54 AM**

Part of 57th would be good too, given the eventual SkyTrain coverage. And much of the in-between spaces could be Missing Middle housing.

Sheba · #25 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tetsuo

Can we get more investment in infrastructure, not only transit and roads but also recreation.

More trails for example

Maybe this is something to check out - Trails Strategy Review

Spocket · #26 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 3:47 AM**

It's possible that the planners are expecting something to change in the foreign investment sector of the market such that some of the heat will come off of the demand that's driving the prices up. If that's the plan and they're right, they may be able to formulate a plan that will actually make growth more manageable.

Tetsuo · #27 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

Maybe this is something to check out - Trails Strategy Review

Thanks Sheba

Tetsuo · #28 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 3:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

Maybe this is something to check out - Trails Strategy Review

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Originally Posted by Sheba

The Red Room (Richards and Hastings) is a club at the bottom of an office tower. When they have live bands in, they have to wait to load in their gear as the tower won't let them until after the offices close. Usually they show up around mid-afternoon, so waiting a few hours and then having to hurry to load in and do sound check before 7pm (doors tend to open early nowadays) doesn't make for an ideal situation.

There are other sites in the near area that are mixed buildings with nightlife, MIA, Portside

The thing is a lot of "nightlife" namely pure play clubbing is dying, most people looking for one night stands and hookups just use the online apps

Commodore, Celebs, Red Room do really well since they plan with shows and headliners, making the "night going experience"

GlassCity · #29 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by fredinno

Would better soundproofing be able to overcome those sorts of problems? They did for NEFC- and stadiums are not quiet.

I actually think the lack of towers on rezoned along Robson is a bigger deal. No one can complain about Luxury Condos on a Luxury shopping area. Instead we just get 3 stories max.

So a couple more apartments to the west?

At that station yes, as with others throughout the region. I mean you look at that map and there's pretty intense growth targeted right onto Cambie and Granville - and then nothing right off of them. That makes no sense. As Migrant_Coconut mentioned, those are great opportunities for missing middle housing. Put more people near good transit, and transit mode share will improve, housing stock will be diversified, and more supply will be added.

SpongeG · #30 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 5:35 AM**

B.C. leads countrywide surge in immigration
By Bryan Yu | January 14, 2020

A new wave of immigration is increasing Canada’s population and underpinning its economic growth. National population growth from July 1 to October 1 reached a robust 0.6%.

B.C. led this charge with an increase of 0.7% or 34,240 persons over the period. This was the strongest same-quarter growth for B.C. since the mid-1990s. The latest gain has been driven by a surge in international migration, both in traditional immigrant newcomers and in surging non-permanent residents. The former surpassed 15,000 persons, which was 50% above the prior year’s performance.

High intake targets by the federal government, and strong demand by immigrants for countries that have stable governments, freedom and an overall acceptance of newcomers, have buoyed inflows. A tight labour market, demand for post-secondary education and a burgeoning technology sector are likely driving increased non-permanent resident flows.

Year-over-year population growth in the latest quarter rose to nearly 1.6% from 1.4% during the prior quarter, translating into a gain of 78,425 persons. More than 80% was due to international inflows.

Strong population growth will remain a key driver for the economy, with newcomers helping to alleviate shortages in the labour market, lifting consumption and housing demand and forming businesses. That said, growth will add to pressure on home values and rents.

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https://biv.com/article/2020/01/bc-l...O2y8ui6dGyUWWo

goldenboi · #31 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 8:27 AM**

If we're talking corridors that could use densification, I'll throw 41st Ave out there. With RapidBus running, they should allow a minimum of 6 story mixed use buildings from Joyce to UBC. It could actually become a nice street one day.

misher · #32 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 6:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by goldenboi

If we're talking corridors that could use densification, I'll throw 41st Ave out there. With RapidBus running, they should allow a minimum of 6 story mixed use buildings from Joyce to UBC. It could actually become a nice street one day.

41st is just too narrow for further densification, maybe if we eliminated stret parking and upgraded it some.

Galaxy · #33 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 8:39 PM**

They already eliminated the street parking as part of the rapid bus improvements. There is already a lot of development around Oakridge on 41st and there is a number of projects East and West of Cambie with density in mind. I would love to see more development especially redevelopment of the single-family homes into rental and condos etc. What would be cool though is the creation of an identity for the entirety of 41st.? One idea may be expanding on the look and feel of Kerrisdale east and west.

officedweller · #34 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

The Red Room (Richards and Hastings) is a club at the bottom of an office tower. When they have live bands in, they have to wait to load in their gear as the tower won't let them until after the offices close. Usually they show up around mid-afternoon, so waiting a few hours and then having to hurry to load in and do sound check before 7pm (doors tend to open early nowadays) doesn't make for an ideal situation.

That location has been a nightclub for ages.
It was SYSTEMS in the 1980s.

Migrant_Coconut · #35 Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

They already eliminated the street parking as part of the rapid bus improvements. There is already a lot of development around Oakridge on 41st and there is a number of projects East and West of Cambie with density in mind. I would love to see more development especially redevelopment of the single-family homes into rental and condos etc. What would be cool though is the creation of an identity for the entirety of 41st.? One idea may be expanding on the look and feel of Kerrisdale east and west.

There should definitely be at least Kerrisdale-sized midrises from Oak to Larch.

fredinno · #36 Posted **Jan 16, 2020, 9:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Part of 57th would be good too, given the eventual SkyTrain coverage. And much of the in-between spaces could be Missing Middle housing.

There is the special development area on 57th (forgot the name).

Migrant_Coconut · #37 Posted **Jan 16, 2020, 7:09 PM**

You're thinking of Pearson-Dogwood (the peach/tan-coloured area marked on the map) and Langara Gardens (the one directly north of it). That area's eventually going to have a SkyTrain station, so some midrises on 57th at least to Oak would be good too.

svlt · #38 Posted **Jan 16, 2020, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

You're thinking of Pearson-Dogwood (the peach/tan-coloured area marked on the map) and Langara Gardens (the one directly north of it). That area's eventually going to have a SkyTrain station, so some midrises on 57th at least to Oak would be good too.

Last I heard that potential station was really, really far into the future with no current impetus to accelerate it

Tetsuo · #39 Posted **Jan 16, 2020, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

You're thinking of Pearson-Dogwood (the peach/tan-coloured area marked on the map) and Langara Gardens (the one directly north of it). That area's eventually going to have a SkyTrain station, so some midrises on 57th at least to Oak would be good too.

From the east end of those two sites 57th cuts between two school sites towards Oak, and after that it's a block of lowrises already (seniors home and townhomes I believe)

Migrant_Coconut · #40 Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 1:12 AM**

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From the east end of those two sites 57th cuts between two school sites towards Oak, and after that it's a block of lowrises already (seniors home and townhomes I believe)

Thanks, forgot about Churchill and Laurier. There's a senior's home and a synagogue, sure, but also a whole bunch of detached housing that could be upzoned.