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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 9:44 PM
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LA doesn't need the world's tallest building. Not because it would throw off it's skyline, but it isn't feasible to build a 2,000+ story building in the Ring of Fire.
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2000 stories! That would teach China and Dubai. D/N/T the USA.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 9:54 PM
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2000 stories! That would teach China and Dubai. D/N/T the USA.
Wonder how much a penthouse unit would cost in a 2,000 story building?

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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 9:56 PM
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You're correct. It looks 3X bad.

It's now too expensive to build tall solely for ego in the United States as they are in the Middle East oil kingdoms. And there isn't sufficient population density in any American city, like there is in Asia, to economically justify a World's Tallest in the United States for the forseeable future. The battle will be between Asia and the Middle East for the increasingly fleeting honor of WTB.

Population density has already been proven to be unrelated to being able to build supertall buildings. The Burj Dubai sits where sand dunes were just years ago. Let us not forget that Chicago had proposed buildings this tall decades ago.. why not today?
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 9:57 PM
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My fear is that he would get that thing half built and then run out of money. Imagine having an eyesore like that hanging over your city!! It would be like that building in North Korea--only worse!!
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Might look good in the ATL. haha
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:00 PM
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Why would a skyscraper-buff even begin to ridicule this guy ? I love him. More power to him.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:01 PM
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umm why not build it in detroit... give that city a much needed boost theres all the land ripe for development............
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Nahh. Dubai would then turnaround and promptly announce a 200,000 storey rotating skyscraper that would reach the Van Allen Belts, and would be build in the middle of the Persian gulf and connected to London England via underground highspeed supertrains.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:08 PM
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I think Vegas is the only American city garish enough to pull off a building like that! Of the cities mentioned, Chicago is the only one with anything approaching that height.
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Nahh. Dubai would then turnaround and promptly announce a 200,000 storey rotating skyscraper that would reach the Van Allen Belts, and would be build in the middle of the Persian gulf and connected to London England via underground highspeed supertrains.
Dont forget about the death ray used to enslave the entire human race.
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You're correct. It looks 3X bad.

It's now too expensive to build tall solely for ego in the United States as they are in the Middle East oil kingdoms. And there isn't sufficient population density in any American city, like there is in Asia, to economically justify a World's Tallest in the United States for the forseeable future. The battle will be between Asia and the Middle East for the increasingly fleeting honor of WTB.
Perhaps. Manhattan has an extremely high population density to go along with a very tight market on commercial and residential space. The vacancy rate for class A space is absurdly low and developers building new class A space are able to demand top dollar ... they are making a fortune. Thing about it though, I can't see office space over say 1200' to 1500' being practical at all ... like I want to spend half my lunch break in the elevator. It wouldn't be too hard to imagine a state of paranoia in NYC (justified or not) about living in a building that sticks out that much from the rest. I think the building would be hard to fill in NY.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:16 PM
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My two cents. I call BS unless he Younan wants to burn through his wealth just to leave a legacy behind him...I can respect that. Personally, I would think that New York and Chicago are the only feasible places to put up a tower that tall, but there are a lot of barriers to both. NY is probably the only city with a market that could finance this project, but there seems to be an unofficial code not to build higher than the WTC. On the flip side, I bet you could get a ginorma-ubertall approved in Chicago without too much difficulty, but you'd be taking a loss on the project.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:17 PM
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I wouldn't put it in Downtown or Uptown in Houston. I would have it out by NASA or the Bay and make it a tourist attraction.
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The more I think about it, the better Las Vegas sounds. Put a casino and maybe some carnival rides on the top, and you have a real money-maker. Perhaps you could even include an acrobat troupe to do death-defying stunts from the top of the thing! Imagine how much people would pay to see that!
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:22 PM
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Something I read at Houston's forum:

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Is the idea outlandish? Yes. Is it crazy? Yes. Is it unreasonable? Yes. However it begs the question as to why? Is it because we can't imagine something that big and expensive being built in Houston? Is it because we can't wrap our minds around it? If this was Shanghai or Hong Kong or Seoul or especially Dubai, this would be a ho-hum development that would not surprise them as much as it surprises us.

I still maintain that we don't know what kind of "building" he has in mind. Maybe someone can superimpose a 3,000 foot CN Tower or Tower of the America's over downtown and see what that looks like.

Last thing, this is still Houston, and if he buys the land for the building and commits to building it, well there's nothing that can be done to stop him.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:23 PM
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Population density has already been proven to be unrelated to being able to build supertall buildings. The Burj Dubai sits where sand dunes were just years ago. Let us not forget that Chicago had proposed buildings this tall decades ago.. why not today?
I pointed to two reasons why WTBs are being built. In Dubai and other Middle East oil kingdoms they are building and/or proposing WTBs for purely egotistical reasons. And with oil over $70/bbl and a ready supply of workers who can be paid $7.00 per day, stroking that ego becomes affordable. The Burj Dubai will probably cost under $1 billion to construct. But it would cost 3 times as much to build in Los Angeles or Chicago. Furthermore, Chicago and Los Angeles are older cities with stabilized population growth. And in the case of Chicago, the population of the inner city has been dropping for decades. Who knows how fast Dubai will grow? In a couple decades it might be much larger than Chicago.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:37 PM
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Why doesn't Houston or LA have the economy to support a building like this?
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:46 PM
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"for the glory of the United States"

If that's why he's building it. . . please keep it out of Chicago. . . Houston is more the testosterone fueled environment for this kind of silliness. . .
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2007, 10:58 PM
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^^ yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say thats bunk. the "capitol" of a state who's gdp rivals any country in Europe. And Houston? oil-money anyone? and Houston is knocking on Chicago's door in terms of population. And I'd go ahead and take a gander that the building would see even less resistance in houston than in chicago. ahh, I'll stop talking out of my ass now, but I'll stop by saying that LA and Houston could both handle this "building" (its kind of funny that we're talking about such a vague thing, though...)
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