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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:41 PM
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You're dreaming.

It's only a three-acre block, and once you put two towers with reasonable floor plans there, there's hardly enough left for a basketball court.

I used to think new neighborhoods needed real parks, but it's become obvious that the only thing old-fashioned parks—the ones with grass and trees—are used for nowadays is to empty apartment-dwellers' dogs. Those facilities are best as 3000-square-foot rectangles, distributed one or two per block.
I agree, the money is better spent on things like the Riverwalk or Bloomingdale Trail which are unique experiences that add a level of outdoor recreation (Kayaks, bike trail, etc) to the city. If anything is clear, it's that Chicago lacks outdoors sporting amenities like the ones enjoyed by say Denver or Seattle. We have a beautiful lakefront, but unless you have enough money for a yacht, that's pretty inaccessible. We can build our own outdoors urban playground, but it is going to have to be a vast network of riverwalks and bike trails because we don't have mountains or forests at our doorsteps like many cities.
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I used to think new neighborhoods needed real parks, but it's become obvious that the only thing old-fashioned parks—the ones with grass and trees—are used for nowadays is to empty apartment-dwellers' dogs. Those facilities are best as 3000-square-foot rectangles, distributed one or two per block.
completely disagree. the city parks i see on summer days are packed with people enjoying the weather, relaxing, grilling, and generally enjoying life. i dont know how anyone could suggest otherwise, but the traditional city parks are heavily utilized. also, even if they arent packed with people (in the case of say, northerly island), id say thats all the valuable in a city thats increasingly dense and devoid of open spaces or nature for people to escape the crush of urbanism and throngs of people.

theres value in programmed parks like Millenium/Riverwalk/606, but theyre really not the same thing and dont really serve the same role. a bike path is not a park, although it can certainly connect to one.

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Old Posted Feb 13, 2018, 2:36 PM
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completely disagree. the city parks i see on summer days are packed with people enjoying the weather, relaxing, grilling, and generally enjoying life. i dont know how anyone could suggest otherwise, but the traditional city parks are heavily utilized. also, even if they arent packed with people (in the case of say, northerly island), id say thats all the valuable in a city thats increasingly dense and devoid of open spaces or nature for people to escape the crush of urbanism and throngs of people.

theres value in programmed parks like Millenium/Riverwalk/606, but theyre really not the same thing and dont really serve the same role. a bike path is not a park, although it can certainly connect to one.
The sarcasm was lost on you I guess? There are also (I’m guessing) some cultural differences between the lively parks you’re seeing and the defacto dog runs in places like South Loop, Gold Coast, etc.

Rich folks often work long hours and don’t have time to casually hang out in parks, and when they do want to go out, they have the disposable income to visit restaurants and bars. Parks in a wealthy neighborhood are either for kids, dogs, or both (and very large parks like Lincoln and Humboldt also attract joggers).

I mean, I make a point personally to have picnics and barbecues on the lakefront, but I imagine it must seem like a very blue-collar thing to some of my more boujee friends.
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I wish Via Chicago would specify the parks that he sees being heavily used. I suspect he's talking about Lincoln Park.

I bicycle all over the city in summer, and I ride past a lot of neighborhood parks. I'm always struck by how, on a beautiful 75-degree summer day, most will only have a dogwalker or two actually using them. In Latino neighborhoods, sometimes there'll be a soccer game; if there's a basketball hoop, a few teens might be underneath. Otherwise, nobody at all. Lots and lots of empty softball diamonds in this town.
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yea, theres just no one in humboldt park on a summer day...totally empty. no food carts or kids swimming or music.

no one golfing at jackson park or meditating in the japanese garden

no music festivals taking up Union Park for 2/3 of the summer.

No summer evening movies or Shakespeare in the park

no sunday morning soccer games in douglas park.

no 20-somethings lounging on Logan Boulevard

no little league games, ever.

no tai chi in Ping Tom Park

no one fishing in McKinley Park Lagoon or Palmisano Park

no out of towners checking out Garfield Park

no kids climbing jungle gyms in Winnemac Park

no one having picnics at Loyola Beach

no one going for a dip at Promontory Point

no cricket games in Warren Park

just wastelands, all of them. thanks to alerting me to my blindness...gotta get that checked out.

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yea, theres just no one in humboldt park on a summer day...totally empty.
Likewise Garfield park - the part that is not fenced off.
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2018, 4:11 PM
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Likewise Garfield park - the part that is not fenced off.
Palmer Square gets heavy use all year round.
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If someone can swing by the Sears Tower with a fancy camera to document the progress there, it’d be greatly appreciated! I drove past today and the demo is in full swing.
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 12:26 AM
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If someone can swing by the Sears Tower with a fancy camera to document the progress there, it’d be greatly appreciated! I drove past today and the demo is in full swing.
I second this
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Whats the Sears timeline? Is there an estimated completion date?
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 2:34 AM
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Whats the Sears timeline? Is there an estimated completion date?
2019 allegedly
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 3:14 PM
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Speaking of updates if someone can post updates of the new uic building it be great. Speaking of UIC do they still own the empty lot at the SE corner of Harrison and Halsted? If so, was there ever any plans for that site. i thought while they were building the fitness center they had a plan for a student study center/cafe thing on that corner.
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Does anybody know of an expected completion date for Logan's Crossing?
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 3:56 PM
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yea, theres just no one in humboldt park on a summer day...totally empty. no food carts or kids swimming or music.

no one golfing at jackson park or meditating in the japanese garden

no music festivals taking up Union Park for 2/3 of the summer.

No summer evening movies or Shakespeare in the park

no sunday morning soccer games in douglas park.

no 20-somethings lounging on Logan Boulevard

no little league games, ever.

no tai chi in Ping Tom Park

no one fishing in McKinley Park Lagoon or Palmisano Park

no out of towners checking out Garfield Park

no kids climbing jungle gyms in Winnemac Park

no one having picnics at Loyola Beach

no one going for a dip at Promontory Point

no cricket games in Warren Park

just wastelands, all of them. thanks to alerting me to my blindness...gotta get that checked out.
There's a pretty big difference between the utilization of neighborhood parks vs parks in the immediate downtown area. In the downtown neighborhoods I'd agree with Mr Downtown in that they are for little more than dog relief or resting places for the homeless. Although I like having parks downtown if for nothing other than providing some view/light corridors I don't think the demand is all that high for locals given every new highrise has a large amenity deck/park on top of their enormous parking podiums. As a resident I'd prefer to hang out in a park that isn't covered in dog pee and also be a lot safer at the same time.

People visiting the neighborhoods would likely enjoy them more than the people living in the area.
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2018, 8:27 PM
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There's a pretty big difference between the utilization of neighborhood parks vs parks in the immediate downtown area. In the downtown neighborhoods I'd agree with Mr Downtown in that they are for little more than dog relief or resting places for the homeless. Although I like having parks downtown if for nothing other than providing some view/light corridors I don't think the demand is all that high for locals given every new highrise has a large amenity deck/park on top of their enormous parking podiums. As a resident I'd prefer to hang out in a park that isn't covered in dog pee and also be a lot safer at the same time.

People visiting the neighborhoods would likely enjoy them more than the people living in the area.
Lake Shore Park is a nice oasis in a sea of high-rise buildings.

I like sitting on a bench at that park with my dog Rusty, enjoying a relaxing view of the Hancock. But you also have the more athletically inclined enjoying a jog on the track or a playing a game of tennis.

There are a lot of people in the neighborhood who live in buildings that don't have an amenity deck.

And the people I know who live in a building with a deck, often prefer visiting a park to sitting on their building's deck.
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There are a lot of people in the neighborhood who live in buildings that don't have an amenity deck.

And the people I know who live in a building with a deck, often prefer visiting a park to sitting on their building's deck.
yea i dont know how one could reasonably suggest these fulfill the same role (to say nothing of the fact that one is inherently private and the other is public and open to all walks of life and incomes). its like saying "my gym has exercise bikes so we dont need bike paths"

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Overhead canopy is being installed on 8th and Wabash for the Columbia College Student Center.

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Speaking of updates if someone can post updates of the new uic building it be great. Speaking of UIC do they still own the empty lot at the SE corner of Harrison and Halsted? If so, was there ever any plans for that site. i thought while they were building the fitness center they had a plan for a student study center/cafe thing on that corner.
Are you talking about that dorm thing they are building by the blue line station? I divvyed by there today. It’s just a 1-story core. Nothing much to see. I don’t think I’ve ever seen renderings of what it’s suppsed to look like.
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Are you talking about that dorm thing they are building by the blue line station? I divvyed by there today. It’s just a 1-story core. Nothing much to see. I don’t think I’ve ever seen renderings of what it’s suppsed to look like.
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