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Old Posted May 25, 2017, 3:22 PM
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The general perception in Canada is that rail will only reach London from Toronto. The extension to Windsor does not have a viable business plan. There is not a big enough population base in Windsor to make a go of this. To make this all work needs a proper connection to Detroit, which will require 'efficient' customs controls.
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Old Posted May 25, 2017, 4:46 PM
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Well, really, it doesn't have to connect into Detroit to tap into the region's population. Detroiters can easily cross the border and board the train from there, Windsor is basically an extension of Detroit anyway.

Windsor and London have essentially the same population (London is only slightly larger) and they're both growing, it wouldn't make sense to stop at London for that reason, that would be a very short and pointless high-speed rail.
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So about a month in now, and the QLine is doing... okay.

Most complaints are about it not being as efficient as it could be.

Daily Detroit points out the big ones. Quite possibly the biggest complaint is how useless the estimated time screen is. In fact, I don't think there's yet a fixed schedule on when trains are supposed to arrive which might explain why they use this method.



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The “estimated” times are a flat out joke. They’re rarely correct. The best guess you have is to watch the little dots with the blue tags for where the next train is, because those minute estimations seem to be never right.
http://www.dailydetroit.com/2017/06/...ove-need-talk/

The other complaint is that the whole length of the route can be walked in about the same time it takes for a train to complete it - about 45 minutes to an hour. You could probably beat the train if you rode a bike, though you'd have to maintain a good speed and have some decent endurance. Besides all that, using the QLine doesn't require too much exercise which is pretty convenient.

A lot of people are finding that they're not really fans of the shared-road method; mainly they dislike the train having to stop at red lights. Without having a dedicated separate grade ROW, some are saying the QLine needs signal priority.

A possibly good complaint is that the whole system very quickly reaches capacity during peak times. There's never an empty train and it seems like very soon more streetcars are going to be needed.

So QLine gets a 6/10 for being a good idea with ambitious goals but not such a perfect execution. Any future expansions, without a doubt, would need higher capacity trains, dedicated ROWs, and a fixed schedule.
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Well, really, it doesn't have to connect into Detroit to tap into the region's population. Detroiters can easily cross the border and board the train from there, Windsor is basically an extension of Detroit anyway.

Windsor and London have essentially the same population (London is only slightly larger) and they're both growing, it wouldn't make sense to stop at London for that reason, that would be a very short and pointless high-speed rail.

not exactly, london was possibly targeted in part because cleveland and port stanley have been talking high speed ferry service for a long time. i certainly agree service should extend to windsor too though. seems silly not to do that. and lets get better cleveland-buffalo amtrak service and loop hamilton/toronto in while we are at it.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 2:23 AM
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not exactly, london was possibly targeted in part because cleveland and port stanley have been talking high speed ferry service for a long time. i certainly agree service should extend to windsor too though. seems silly not to do that. and lets get better cleveland-buffalo amtrak service and loop hamilton/toronto in while we are at it.
The Ontario government is slowly working towards extending Go Transit Rail service to Niagara Falls. There are already summer excursion trains on weekends in addition to the current Via Rail/Amtrak service. There are major challenges in Hamilton to extending Go Service that they currently working on. We will not see more international trains until there is an effective method of dealing with trains at border crossings.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2017, 10:26 AM
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http://www.freep.com/story/money/bus...day/417333001/

QLine is now free until Labor Day.

Among other changes, it will behave more like a bus and not stop at empty stations. Trains will only drop off riders per request.

M1 is working with MDOT to get priority signaling at select intersections along Woodward. The goal is to get wait times down to 12 minutes from the current 15+ minutes.

Anecdotally, there were over 100,000 riders during the first month of operation.
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I felt conflicted reading the whole article. Making it run like a bus short of defeats it's purpose as it relates to actual transport. It's also going to need more than 100,000 per month for me to call it a success, though I imagine it opening in the late spring probably didn't much help with the numbers thus far, and we'll see bigger numbers when folks get back to school. I also wonder if it'll get the huge surge the PM gets when the NAIAS is in town?

I guess I kind of expected them to be a bit more prepared with how to drive ridership than they were. Some of these wait times are unacceptable, but the signal priority should help that. I've never been under any illusion about what a streetcar is and isn't, but one of the concerns I did have was the number of cars. I thought they should have bought more. I wasn't looking for them to zip passengers up and down the corridor, but if some of the wait times I'm hearing are true, at certain times of the day you'd be better off taking a DDOT bus. The QLine should be at least as frequent as the buses.
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This has been a long time coming, and will affect multiple Amtrak lines across the state, including the Wolverine (Pontiac – Detroit – Ann Arbor – Chicago), the Pere Marquette (Grand Rapids – Chicago) and the Blue Water (Port Huron – East Lansing – Chicago). These routes will soon be powered by new, greener, Siemens-built Charger locomotives that can run at speeds of 125 mph.

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Greener trains are coming to the Great Lakes region.

Technically, they’re locomotives. That’s the part of the train that does the pushing or the pulling. The Siemens Chargers, which are due to arrive by fall, meet the Environmental Protection Agency’s “tier four” standards. Tier four is the agency’s highest standard for emissions.

Besides leaving a smaller carbon footprint, the locomotives can get up to speed faster than older models. A 94-mile section of track between Porter, Indiana, and Kalamazoo, Michigan, for example, could see trains flying through at 110 miles per hour without a long acceleration period.

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Image: A Siemens SC-44 Charger in Denver, CO, 2016.
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The actual design of the new Charger locos is kind of ho-hum and not nearly a slick as what they should have been and what was suggested in earlier renderings. On the other hand, whoever is responsible for that awful paint scheme should be scalped.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 6:57 AM
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The Ontario government is slowly working towards extending Go Transit Rail service to Niagara Falls. There are already summer excursion trains on weekends in addition to the current Via Rail/Amtrak service. There are major challenges in Hamilton to extending Go Service that they currently working on. We will not see more international trains until there is an effective method of dealing with trains at border crossings.

slow progress is progress, so thats actually very encouraging news to hear --

unfortunately, until we hear of any movement from the southern states to meet up at niagara we are a long ways off from worrying about crossings.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 1:26 PM
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Speaking of the US-Canada connections, the Gordie Howie Bridge took a major step forward yesterday.


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$48M deal for Detroit land in Windsor bridge project includes relocation money for residents
BY DANA AFANA. MLive Detroit. June 23, 2017



The city on Friday announced a $48-million deal to sell land for the Gordie Howe International Bridge Project, and $33 million of the funds would go toward moving residents who live in the area or retrofitting their homes with safety elements.

If approved by City Council, the rest of the money from the sale would go toward job training and health monitoring initiatives, according to the mayor's office.

About 450 families live in the vicinity of the bridge project in Detroit's Delray neighborhood.

The city wants to move those who live south of I-75 into vacant, renovated homes in other neighborhoods.

"My proposal is going to be if you are a homeowner who lives in this community ... you look at the thousand houses we have available ... we'll renovate it for you and then you'll essentially swap us houses," Mayor Mike Duggan said in the Friday announcement.

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http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/in...al_brid_4.html

Among other things, residents north of 75 will be offered new insulation, windows, and HVAC systems along with air pollution monitoring. 36 parcels of land including under ground utilities and 5 miles of city streets were sold to the state to make way for the bridge.


Meanwhile on the Canadian side, a lot of the pre-construction has been done. Contractors will be chosen by November and construction (as well as a finalized design) is expected to start early 2018.

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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 2:25 PM
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The actual design of the new Charger locos is kind of ho-hum and not nearly a slick as what they should have been and what was suggested in earlier renderings. On the other hand, whoever is responsible for that awful paint scheme should be scalped.
Agreed. The paint scheme feels very...institutional / government-y. I suppose it makes sense that it has the same aesthetic as a typical Amtrak station (thinking of the many that aren't housed in historic stations).
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 8:39 PM
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^I'm not sure about "government'y" ... i would just go with sucky. Hell just a solid color would be better.
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