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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 7:58 PM
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 11:32 PM
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Ithaca just had its first murder of the year. The city usually averages about one murder every five years or so. But since last August there have been three.

* Ithaca College student stabbed to death on Cornell campus.
* A man shot and killed a UPS driver at Walmart saying he thought he killed Donald Trump.
* Most recent is a transgender woman killed in building under construction in my old neighborhood.

http://www.twcnews.com/nys/central-n...se-arrest.html

What does the person being transgender have anything to do with anything?
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 7:22 AM
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What does the person being transgender have anything to do with anything?
You ever hear of hate crimes where people are killed and the motive is simply their existence? Don't act like the transgender community is immune to it.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 7:38 PM
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Des Moines had another two murders this weekend, so up to 18.

Insanely high numbers for that city, I'm assuming it's just an atypical year, that happens from time to time. Nothing concrete happened that would increase the murder rate by over twice as many as normal in one sudden year.

I remember when Iowa City had 8 murders one year and everyone freaked out since it normally had 0-1 murders. It went back down to basically 0 murders per year and stayed there.
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1 dead - SAN MARCOS: Man, 28, dies after being shot and run over with own car - 6/20

2017 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 11 | Travis Co. 18 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Hays Co. 4 | Williamson Co. 1 | Metro 23 |

Metro totals:
Shooting - 17
Stabbing - 4
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 0
Vehicular - 1
Blunt force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 1

Austin totals:
Downtown - 0
Central Austin - 1
East Austin - 3
North Austin - 3
Northeast Austin - 1
Northwest Austin - 0
South Austin - 3
Southeast Austin - 0
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 0

Victims
Male - 16
Female - 5
Unlisted - 2

| Jan 1 | Feb 6 | Mar 7 | Apr 1 | May 5 | Jun 3 | Jul 0 | Aug 0 | Sep 0 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 2 | Tue 1 | Wed 7 | Thur 5 | Fri 3 | Sat 1 | Sun 4 |

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Austin Metro Murder cases
Code:
1 dead - Sheriff: Woman killed daughter, 5, in one of Hays County’s ‘worst’ cases - 1/5

1 dead - Police: Alcohol possibly involved in South Austin fatal shooting Saturday - 2/4

1 dead - Man accused of hitting woman twice with car in North Austin charged with murder - 2/5

1 dead - Victim in fatal Round Rock shooting was veteran, loving dad, neighbor says - 2/8

1 dead - Woman found dead in Hays County after apparent disturbance with husband, deputies say - 2/9

1 dead - 2 Hays County shooting deaths in 5 hours; 1 case still unsolved - 2/9

1 dead - Authorities: Bastrop kidnapping ends in fatal shooting of woman; shooter turns gun on self - 2/15

1 dead - Man found stabbed at East Austin bus stop - 3/10

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Man accused of murder after shooting in North Austin on Sunday, police say - 3/12

1 dead - Gang, homicide investigators seeking shooter after man killed in East Austin  - 3/15

2 dead - NEW DETAILS: Authorities ID suspect in double homicide near Lake Travis  - 3/15

1 dead - Shooter on the run after homicide near Wells Branch, North Austin, officials say - 3/16

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Police: Man fatally shot in North Austin, suspect still on the loose - 3/26

1 dead - Travis Co sheriff releases person of interest photo in Friday homicide - 4/7

1 dead - EMS: 1 dead, 3 injured in stabbing at UT campus; suspect in custody - 5/1

1 dead - Two bodies found at South Austin home ruled murder/suicide - 5/3

1 dead - Man charged with murder in father’s death - 5/7

1 dead - HOMICIDE CASE: Gunshot victim found in Pflugerville parking lot by police - 5/10

1 dead - Man killed in shooting on South Congress Ave. identified - 5/19

1 dead - SHOOTING UPDATE: Man dies in NE Austin, 10 miles away from shooting, police say - 6/8

1 dead - SAN MARCOS: Man, 28, dies after being shot and run over with own car - 6/20

1 dead - NEW DETAILS: Police identify man, woman found dead in North Austin home - 6/20
Pending cases


Austin area population

City: 947,890 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,199,323 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,056,405 (July 1, 2016 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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Previous years

2016 - 39
2015 - 19
2014 - 31
2013 - 25
2012 - 32
2011 - 28
2010 - 31
2009 - 23
2008 - 24
2007 - 30
2006 - 20

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| Austin 10 | Travis Co. 10 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Hays Co. 3 | Williamson Co. 0 | Metro 13 | - 6/20/2016


| Austin 11 | Travis Co. 18 | Bastrop Co. 0 | Caldwell Co. 0 | Has Co. 4 | Williamson Co. 1 | Metro 23 | - 6/20/2017
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 7:36 PM
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San Francisco is at 33 after a fatal shooting in SOMA. There were 26 at this time last year, and 25 at this time in 2015.

Oakland is at 34, after a shooting in West Oakland. There were 26 at this time last year, and 42 at this time in 2015.

San Jose is at 13, after a stabbing. There were 22 at this time last year, and 8 at this time in 2015.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 11:10 PM
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You ever hear of hate crimes where people are killed and the motive is simply their existence? Don't act like the transgender community is immune to it.
Was this ruled a hate crime? Sometimes a murder is just that, a murder.
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What does the person being transgender have anything to do with anything?
Only that the DA is trying to decide if it was a hate crime.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2017, 5:58 PM
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SF is now at 34, after a shooting in the tenderloin.
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SF is now at 34, after a shooting in the tenderloin.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 8:35 AM
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Only that the DA is trying to decide if it was a hate crime.
Well, as of the 19th the DA isn't claiming this is a hate crime.

My issue is this, LGBT websites are automatically posting this as the 'on-going' war on lgbt. This has zero to do with sexual orientation, so why stoke fears? Now, someone will be told, "hey that case had nothing to do with them being trans" and someone could respond "well that doesn't take away from the fact that it DOES happen " it dilutes the real issue.

People should be reserved in making such statements.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 1:42 PM
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Knoxville TN is at 19 which is around what they usuallu finish the year at.

Nashville TN is 57 up from 35 at this time last year.

Memphis TN is at 96.

Baltimore MD is at 164.

Charlotte NC is at 46.
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Knoxville TN is at 19 which is around what they usuallu finish the year at.

Nashville TN is 57 up from 35 at this time last year.

Memphis TN is at 96.

Baltimore MD is at 164.

Charlotte NC is at 46.
Since you seem to know about these stats do you know how many cities are seeing abnormally high murder rates this year? It seems like across the country people are being murdered at alarming rates. What is causing this spike?

As an example my normally quiet south Denver neighborhood has seen two people shot and killed in the last week and citywide I am constantly hearing about homicides.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2017, 2:33 AM
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http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ark/425990001/
Looking like Louisville KY is going to go back to back years with record breaking numbers

Eastern Kentucky is also having a really bad year but I don't have the numbers.

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Well, as of the 19th the DA isn't claiming this is a hate crime.

My issue is this, LGBT websites are automatically posting this as the 'on-going' war on lgbt. This has zero to do with sexual orientation, so why stoke fears? Now, someone will be told, "hey that case had nothing to do with them being trans" and someone could respond "well that doesn't take away from the fact that it DOES happen " it dilutes the real issue.

People should be reserved in making such statements.
Well it's obviously their opinion that the DA is wrong. Just because it's not being charged as a hate crime doesnt mean it wasn't a hate crime. DA's arent always 100% infallible or honest, and this is a country where both muslims and LGBT people are often victimized.

The only people who would have a problem with them feeling that this is a hate crime, would be people who already have a problem with them, IMO.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2017, 7:37 PM
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Eastern KY area might have missed some haven't really been keeping up with it.

Whitley County KY is at 5.

Bell County KY is at 1.

Clay County KY is at 1.

Jackson County KY is at 1.

Knox County KY is at 2.

Laurel County KY is at 3.

Lee County KY is at 1.

Letcher County KY is at 1.

Magoffin County KY is at 1.

McCreary County KY is at 1.

Montgomery County KY is at 1.

Menifee County KY is at 2.

Owsley County KY has 1 officer involved shooting death.

Pike County KY is at 2.

Pulaski County KY is at 3.

Rockcastle County KY is at 3.

Rowan County KY is at 1.
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Since you seem to know about these stats do you know how many cities are seeing abnormally high murder rates this year? It seems like across the country people are being murdered at alarming rates. What is causing this spike?

As an example my normally quiet south Denver neighborhood has seen two people shot and killed in the last week and citywide I am constantly hearing about homicides.
I don't think that Baltimore number is that high. (I checked, 135 on June 28, 2016 - so 11 more than a year ago).

Quebec City is at 8 up from 1 last year. Part of the increase is that 2015 was a good (low) year for many, many cities so that even a small uptick makes things worse. Remember, for almost all these cities 2010 was worse than 2016 or 2017 and the late 1990s and early 2000s much worse.

Quebec City had a double killing by arson which the police have labelled manslaughter.

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I believe Phoenix is at 61 relevant deaths, of which 2 have been ruled justifiable homicides, 1 is non-negligent manslaughter, and determination of the nature of several homicides is still pending. So depending on how we're counting, I'd put Phoenix at about 59.

For context, that puts Phoenix roughly on track for its average of ~124 over the past 6 years, slightly above its longtime low of 113 in 2015, and well below its spike to 146 in 2016.
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I don't think that Baltimore number is that high. (I checked, 135 on June 28, 2016 - so 11 more than a year ago).

Quebec City is at 8 up from 1 last year. Part of the increase is that 2015 was a good (low) year for many, many cities so that even a small uptick makes things worse. Remember, for almost all these cities 2010 was worse than 2016 or 2017 and the late 1990s and early 2000s much worse.

Quebec City had a double killing by arson which the police have labelled manslaughter.
Its extremely high compared to years before 2 years ago. Baltimore is at 167 right now at the pace they are going they will break record that they just made 2 years ago.
http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/po...ll&article=all

New Orleans LA is at 92. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...s_murders.html up from 66 last year.

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While violent crime and homicides have been in general decline in Detroit for a few decades, either the city data portal is grossly behind, or Detroit's going to have a unsually low year. If the numbers are right, Detroit has had 69 criminal homicides as of June 24th. We'd be looking at 120-130 on the year when the city usually averages around 300, so something must be wrong with the numbers. But the post back on May 1 was also showing historically low numbers, so maybe things really have slowed down out of nowhere. Either way, it does appear to be a significant decline even if they are off a dozen.
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