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Old Posted Jan 8, 2010, 7:59 PM
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Will the units at spice on Cornwallis go up in value when all this takes place??
Being directly across from the Mayor Peter Kelly Memorial Sewage Treatment Plant, I rather doubt much would help their value.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2010, 8:34 PM
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Being directly across from the Mayor Peter Kelly Memorial Sewage Treatment Plant, I rather doubt much would help their value.
Not necessairly.

Here in Beford the sewage plant is right on the waterfront and there are $1 million condos overlooking the plant with a two more middle to high-class buildings on sale (Dockside).

Then again our sewage plant doesn't smell and has worked for thirty years straight ...
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Mayor Peter Kelly Memorial Sewage Treatment Plant
That's perfect. I suggest we lobby the city to have this facility named in the mayors honor.
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2010, 6:20 PM
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I edited your plan a little bit.
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I edited your plan a little bit.
Still seems a little complicated on the north end there. The idea is to get rid of the interchange and ramps. There's no reason those can't be straightforward street level intersections at Cornwallis and Barrington, Cornwallis and Lower Water/ Provo Wallis. Check out the HRMbydesign PDF They handle the regrading of the interchange very nicely.

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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 6:33 PM
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From Halifaxhistory.ca, before the interchange

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From Halifaxhistory.ca, before the interchange

For the most part I'd like to see something like that implemented but becuase of major road changes since then I realise it can't be identical.

I think;

Buckingham should be built as a one block street between Brunswick and Abemarle to break up the wall of hotels currently dominating the area.

At the north end of Granville Street Mall a new narrow pedestrian street would be constructed heading down towards the Marriott entrance. As a result of this new street the area in front of the Morses Tea building would become a pocket park or public square.

Cogswell would extend down to Upper Water.

Hollis and Lower Water would merge to become Upper Water.

I know this is hard to picture so I'll draw up a sketch later on.

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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 3:55 AM
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Still seems a little complicated on the north end there. The idea is to get rid of the interchange and ramps. There's no reason those can't be straightforward street level intersections at Cornwallis and Barrington, Cornwallis and Lower Water/ Provo Wallis. Check out the HRMbydesign PDF They handle the regrading of the interchange very nicely.
Yeah they are. I'm sorry for the confusion. Each intersecting line would be likely I traffic light. There is one problem now with the east end:
http://www.internationalplace.ca/home.shtml
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International Place will be a leader in environmental technologies while incorporating a contemporary 21st century design. Floor-to-ceiling glass windows, with panoramic waterfront and harbour views will make this building a joy to occupy giving visitors a beautiful view of what Halifax has to offer. The 22-storey flatiron-inspired design, to be built with a goal of attaining a LEED Gold standard, balances soft lines of transparent glass with the rhythm and scale of adjacent historical Granville Mall and is respectful of near-by historic property.
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A gateway to downtown Halifax, International Place has a direct link to the downtown pedway system and all public transportation routes. It will occupy a footprint of approximately 24,000 square feet at its base and will be situated on what is known as the “triangle lands”, the north end of Granville Mall adjacent to Barrington Place. Its central location is within steps of abundant restaurant, retail and entertainment offerings, including the World Trade and Convention Centre, Scotia Square, Casino Nova Scotia, Historic Properties and the Halifax Metro Centre.



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^I ran into that problem trying to design the road layout as well.

I'll draw up a map later but I basically turned the allley at the northend of Granville into a short street heading to the Marriott and had Hollis take over the ramp that is one side of the triangle lands.
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What exactly is the problem with IP?
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2010, 9:16 PM
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What exactly is the problem with IP?
Its surrounded by Barrington Street (west), the Cogswell-Hollis ramp (North-east) and Granville Street (south).

Unless we want the IP too awkwardly fit into the new layout the IP lands would either have to bought out or the new layout would have to fit the IP plans.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2010, 12:23 AM
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I still don't see the problem, but okay...
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I still don't see the problem, but okay...
Its just that IP as it currently is designed, is made to sit on a triangular parcel of land, like a modern Flatiron Building. The Cogswell redesign attempts to "square" off these land parcels. This would make the IP footprint a bit awkward.
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Its just that IP as it currently is designed, is made to sit on a triangular parcel of land, like a modern Flatiron Building. The Cogswell redesign attempts to "square" off these land parcels. This would make the IP footprint a bit awkward.
What Cogswell redesign?
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He means the different designs that people on the forums drew up.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2010, 6:41 PM
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Its just that IP as it currently is designed, is made to sit on a triangular parcel of land, like a modern Flatiron Building. The Cogswell redesign attempts to "square" off these land parcels. This would make the IP footprint a bit awkward.
I still don't see how that's an issue. Yes it will look awkward, but I don't think the remainder of the IP site will be turned into a garbage dump, it could be turned into a park or something public.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2010, 7:58 PM
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Its good to see that the website is back up.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2010, 7:38 PM
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With IP - it presents a challenge, but it can be overcome. Projecting Granville Street up may be one solution - provide it remains pedestrian only. Might be a great opportunity for something like a very nicely tree lined section of street, which could have a park feature there - since there isn't much park area in this part of downtown. I'd also add that since the Cogswell Interchange was such a source of conflict and controversy; it might be a great spot (the park I'm suggesting) to put up something talking about it's removal and the history behind it.

One of the other difficulties will be the changes in grade - it gets pretty complicated.

But I like the suggestions put forward earlier. The other suggestion for IP would be instead of Granville Street wraping up around it; why not hollis street?
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There is a story in the allnovascotia.com about city hall planning to issue a RFP (Request for Proposals) for demolishing the Cogswell Interchange. It sounds like the plan is for it to be a green urban district with active transportation and walking trails (including residential?). According to Andy Fillmore it could become like Victoria's Dockside Green . There isn't an actual masterplan right now, but that his vision.

If the vision is to have acres of open green space then the municipality won't get top dollar for the land. But if there isn't a high demand for commercial space in the downtown core then residential would be a good option. I just hope that there will be a high number of residential units as opposed to an urban type of park which Halifax already seems to have enough of.

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