Winnipeg City Transit/Rapid Transit - Page 202

roccerfeller · #**4021** Posted **Feb 14, 2012, 5:28 PM**

^ That would be a smart redesign of Confusion Corner, ideally, as an open market style pedestrian zone really fits into that area.

And its still pretty damn confusing.

armorand93 · #**4022** Posted **Feb 14, 2012, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by roccerfeller

^ That would be a smart redesign of Confusion Corner, ideally, as an open market style pedestrian zone really fits into that area.

And its still pretty damn confusing.

And theres not much new retail space! There should be an mini-mall like Eau Claire Market or Calgarys Chinatown Mall with nothing but independent, small businesses. That'd be nice!

LilZebra · #**4023** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 8:34 AM**

I was in the AnX (U of W) bookstore on Thursday afternoon.

I wanted a set of bus tickets.

They don't sell them there. The woman directed me to:

The Bay
The UWSA Office

The AnX bookstore woman gave the excuse of why they couldn't sell WT items...

"We'd be competing with the UWSA".

I said nevermind, and I checked my pocket and lo and behold had enough for a ride back to the Library.

In other cities with rapid transit, you can purchase Day Passes, monthly passes, transfers at each rapid transit station (Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver)....

But not in Winnipeg...

Another reason why we're sooo behind and backwards....

MalcolmTucker · #**4024** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 9:12 AM**

In Calgary I believe the capability of buying more than a single ride ticket was only added with the new ticket machines in the last year. For post secondary students in Calgary they also all have a mandatory bus pass so student ID is your bus pass, so no need to sell.

cheswick · #**4025** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 2:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

In Calgary I believe the capability of buying more than a single ride ticket was only added with the new ticket machines in the last year. For post secondary students in Calgary they also all have a mandatory bus pass so student ID is your bus pass, so no need to sell.

IIRC When the post secondary bus pass was being negotiated for Winnipeg, Winnipeg transit wanted to make it mandatory for all students and be included in their fees. I think umsu turned down that proposal and we got the discounted pass available only on campuses.

armorand93 · #**4026** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 3:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

I was in the AnX (U of W) bookstore on Thursday afternoon.

I wanted a set of bus tickets.

They don't sell them there. The woman directed me to:

The Bay
The UWSA Office

The AnX bookstore woman gave the excuse of why they couldn't sell WT items...

"We'd be competing with the UWSA".

I said nevermind, and I checked my pocket and lo and behold had enough for a ride back to the Library.

In other cities with rapid transit, you can purchase Day Passes, monthly passes, transfers at each rapid transit station (Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver)....

But not in Winnipeg...

Another reason why we're sooo behind and backwards....

Competing? They're pretty much the same thing!

h0twired · #**4027** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 7:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

I was in the AnX (U of W) bookstore on Thursday afternoon.

I wanted a set of bus tickets.

They don't sell them there. The woman directed me to:

The Bay
The UWSA Office

The AnX bookstore woman gave the excuse of why they couldn't sell WT items...

"We'd be competing with the UWSA".

I said nevermind, and I checked my pocket and lo and behold had enough for a ride back to the Library.

In other cities with rapid transit, you can purchase Day Passes, monthly passes, transfers at each rapid transit station (Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver)....

But not in Winnipeg...

Another reason why we're sooo behind and backwards....

Name ONE city where you can buy a ticket to ride at a bus stop. Not to mention that all cities have a certain number of locations where you can buy tickets and monthly passes.

Sure you can buy single trip tickets or load magstripe cars at rapid transit stations in other cities, but Winnipeg does not yet have RT functioning nor does it have electronic fare boxes (coming soon as well).

So until then you will have to go to a specific retailer. However once RT is in place you might be able to walk to an RT station from the U of W AnX if you should so choose.

h0twired · #**4028** Posted **Feb 18, 2012, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by cheswick

IIRC When the post secondary bus pass was being negotiated for Winnipeg, Winnipeg transit wanted to make it mandatory for all students and be included in their fees. I think umsu turned down that proposal and we got the discounted pass available only on campuses.

That is what they do in Calgary. All students are required to pay for the UPass with their student fees.

It costs students $110/semester in Calgary.

vid · #**4029** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 1:56 AM**

Do many students there complain about the UPass? In Thunder Bay there are a lot that bitch about the $70/year charge for it. That's how much everyone else pays per month.

MalcolmTucker · #**4030** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 2:45 AM**

I never heard people complain about the UPass amongst by cohort - but I experienced life with and without. Parking became way easier (but not cheaper) once the UPass came in. Also, the cost was so low that it provided value beyond the portion of the student body the commuted by transit every day. Made casual group outings easier to manage for sure.

vid · #**4031** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 4:07 AM**

I guess people here just complain about everything.

armorand93 · #**4032** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 9:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by vid

I guess people here just complain about everything.

There's already a war going about over $2.65 fare.

Also, 604 spotted on the 11 today!

LilZebra · #**4033** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by vid

I guess people here just complain about everything.

Yup. Gives us a reason to fill up the pages of SSP.

vid · #**4034** Posted **Feb 19, 2012, 11:05 PM**

I was referring to Thunder Bay, but that statement applies to Internet as well.

Tower Crane · #**4035** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 12:19 AM**

I got a good look at the whole BRT setup while in the PEG yesterday. I have to say that I don't like it, these roads will end up suffering the same winter freeze though as the others and all you have is another road to fix.

This Experiment gets an "F" in my book, cheap looking, backwards thinking decisions made hear.

P.S. I ain't slammin the PEG, I just think that it deserves better than a new bus on another road.

rypinion · #**4036** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 1:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tower Crane

I got a good look at the whole BRT setup while in the PEG yesterday. I have to say that I don't like it, these roads will end up suffering the same winter freeze though as the others and all you have is another road to fix.

This Experiment gets an "F" in my book, cheap looking, backwards thinking decisions made hear.

P.S. I ain't slammin the PEG, I just think that it deserves better than a new bus on another road.

And an LRT system would be maintenance-free?

pollswpg · #**4037** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tower Crane

I got a good look at the whole BRT setup while in the PEG yesterday. I have to say that I don't like it, these roads will end up suffering the same winter freeze though as the others and all you have is another road to fix.

This Experiment gets an "F" in my book, cheap looking, backwards thinking decisions made hear.

P.S. I ain't slammin the PEG, I just think that it deserves better than a new bus on another road.

It's step one. They weren't building the Toronto Subway System. This line is just going to be one of many, and maybe LRT somewhere down the road. Hopefully it'll evolve into something, don't be so negative.

dpenner · #**4038** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 2:34 AM**

its ok he is entitled to his opinions and in all honesty we won't know if this project is a success or not until a year after the route starts running. I have been spoiled by Bus Rapid Transit while living in Ottawa the last 4 years, hopefully Winnipeg's can somewhat replicate it in the future.

h0twired · #**4039** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by rypinion

And an LRT system would be maintenance-free?

My thoughts exactly.

In Calgary when a train is down and in the middle of a track the entire system gets VERY delayed and they send out buses to move people around.

With a BRT if a bus breaks down they just send another bus and it happily goes around the dead bus.

MalcolmTucker · #**4040** Posted **Feb 23, 2012, 2:08 PM**

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With a BRT if a bus breaks down they just send another bus and it happily goes around the dead bus.

If you have a passing lane, which it is hard to tell from drawings where they are. Are all the stations 4 laned?

And I don't think the remark was about buses breaking down, but the road becoming unservicable just as other roads do.