HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Engineering


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted Jul 13, 2009, 8:53 PM
Château Frontenac's Avatar
Château Frontenac Château Frontenac is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Québec
Posts: 457
Sahara's sun for Europe

Quote:
Berlin - European households could one day get part of their electricity from the Sahara desert under an ambitious project unveiled in the Bavarian city of Munich on Monday.
A consortium of 12 German firms laid the groundwork for a scheme to harness the sun's energy in a chain of solar thermal power plants spanning the deserts of North Africa and the Mediterranean.
The 400-billion-euro (552-billion-dollar) Desertec Industrial Initiative (DII) involves Utilities giants RWE and E.ON, electro-engineering group Siemens and Deutsche Bank, among others.
Solar thermal power makes use of parabolic mirrors to collect sunlight to create heat which is used to produce steam to drive turbines and electricity generators.
Using high voltage direct current transmission lines, the energy could then be transferred to Europe where it could supply 15 per cent of the continent's electricity needs by 2020.
But countries in the Middle East-North Africa region would also be able to meet a large portion of their own energy needs from the scheme, its initiators said in a statement, without disclosing where the plants will be built.
The consortium agreed to form a consultancy by the end of October, which would look into methods of financing and present a concrete investment plan within three years.
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has called Desertec 'a truly visionary project.'
'It offers great potential for regional cooperation in all of North Africa and between those states that still have closed borders,' he said in Berlin.
Solar thermal technology has been used in California's Mojave desert since the mid-1980s and is also in operation in the arid region of Andalusia in the south of Spain.
But some experts have question the 400-billion-euro cost of the new mammoth venture and where the funding will come from.
Desertec board chairman Gerhard Knies said the investment was calculated over a period of 40 years and worked out at just 10 billion euros per year - a relatively small sum compred to other investments in the energy sector.
He also dismissed arguments that Europe could put itself at a disadvantage by becoming dependent on energy supplies from so-called problem states.
'In the oil and natural gas sectors we are already dependent on Algeria and Libya, but things are going very well,' he told the German radio station MDR Info.
'Within six hours deserts receive more energy from the sun than humankind consumes within a year,' he said.
Siemens estimates that an area of 300 x 300 kilometres in the Sahara fitted with parabolic collectors would be enough to meet the planet's entire energy needs. Solar thermal technology is different from photovoltaics, the other popular form of solar power, which converts solar energy directly into electricity.
'Energy suppliers, financial institutions and and plant manufacturers could turn energy from the desert into a showcase for the rest of world,' said environment group Greenpeace.
It said companies involved in the project had to treat it as an alternative to 'environmentally harmful nuclear and coal-generated energy' and not as a rival to wind power or photovoltaics.

Read more: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...xzz0LAtv3BVv&C

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...News_Feature__


what a great technological project...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted Aug 10, 2009, 8:25 PM
Lecom's Avatar
Lecom Lecom is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: the Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 12,703
Brilliant idea. I was thinking for a while about why don't they harness Sahara's abundant solar exposure, which could not only power dozens of countries, but also put hundreds of thousands of people to work in places where foreign investments would turn a lot of things around. Imagine, for instance, if you built several of these in Mali - you could turn around the entire economy in this severely impoverished country.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted Aug 24, 2009, 6:31 PM
brian_b brian_b is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,572
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lecom View Post
Imagine, for instance, if you built several of these in Mali - you could turn around the entire economy in this severely impoverished country.
Are there enough qualified workers in Mali to operate several of these plants? Or will they all be staffed by highly-educated engineers from Europe, North America and Asia while native Malians will be limited to providing house cleaning and cooking services to the foreign workers?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted Aug 24, 2009, 7:44 PM
smurf smurf is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 52
Yea, sounds like a great idea to me to locate several countries worth of power generation in one location such that a single failure can bring a whole continent to its knees.
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Engineering
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:33 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.