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Old Posted Sep 22, 2014, 4:59 AM
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Cool MILWAUKEE | 700 E Kilbourn | ~415 FT | 37 FLOORS

Another big proposal for Milwaukee:


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Fitzgerald's work is getting progressively less heinous with time and Milwaukee's skyline is continuing to remain white...

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Chicago Firm Unveils Designs for 35-Story Tower

Carroll Properties is moving forward with their proposal for a 35-story luxury apartment building on the northeast corner of N. Van Buren St. and E. Kilbourn Ave. Located in the heart of East Town, the new tower would include between 224 and 275 apartments and up to 10,000 square-feet of first-floor commercial space. Designed by FitzGerald Associates of Chiciago, the building is the first entry into the Milwaukee market for Carroll Properties.

The 28,504 square-foot site at 700 E. Kilbourn Ave. is occupied with two surface parking lots and a building that most recently housed Edwardo’s restaurant. That building would be demolished for the project. The land today is owned by Jim Wiechmann. Wiechmann is also involved in the proposed The Rhythm apartment building, which would replace The Curve tavern.
The proposed tower replaces a dead proposal on the site for the Bookends North apartment high-rise. That building was proposed by New Land Enterprises, but didn’t get off the ground when the developer couldn’t secure a loan guarantee from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (The Moderne secured was able to snag a loan guarantee and got built during the same period). The proposed Bookends North development did receive a zoning variance, which would be amended for this new project.
More here: http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2014/09/21...5-story-tower/
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2014, 5:05 AM
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I didn't put MILWAUKEE in all caps, can a mod fix that?
     
     
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^LVDW, someone over at SSC said they found an elevation with a graphic scale on it and that the building actually scales out to ~400' tall, so for now, i'm gonna put that in the thread title, unless you have better info that the building will be closer to 350'.


anyway, it looks like a good project for milwaukee.

the design looks interesting, but it has that kind of "it looks pretty cool as a rendering , but it could be an utter train wreck once the VE vultures rip it apart" look. sort of like what happened with The Moderne.
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Milwaukee has always peaked my interest, looks like it is on the verge of a building boom of sorts.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2014, 2:58 PM
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^LVDW, someone over at SSC said they found an elevation with a graphic scale on it and that the building actually scales out to ~400' tall, so for now, i'm gonna put that in the thread title, unless you have better info that the building will be closer to 350'.
I just guessed 350 based off the floor count, I'll be thrilled if this is 400' though, that would put it easily in the top 10 highest, maybe even top 5 if it's over 408' (obviously the other new towers would bump it back down into the top 10). Milwaukee is going to have a completely different skyline if these all get built.
     
     
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actually, i just found the elevation in question and scaled it myself. the total height to the top of the mechanical screen parapet is ~415'.

and according to the exterior elevations, the building has 35 numbered floors, plus a penthouse level, so it's really 36 floors high.

lots of juicy info about the project can be found in this pdf: http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibra...urnasof090.pdf
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I love how much info the City of Milwaukee puts out there. It seems their government really has their shit together from a planning perspective.

Where did the Milwaukee Compilation thread go? Did it die? I heard that the North End Phase III broke ground and that's a big f-ing deal, like 300 units or something.
     
     
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Where did the Milwaukee Compilation thread go?
the search function is your friend.

here it is: Milwaukee | Development News



the problem is that we have very few milwaukee forumers here at SSP, so milwaukee threads tend to fall quickly. SSC is much more active for milwaukee development discussion.
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I love how much info the City of Milwaukee puts out there. It seems their government really has their shit together from a planning perspective.

Where did the Milwaukee Compilation thread go? Did it die? I heard that the North End Phase III broke ground and that's a big f-ing deal, like 300 units or something.
looks like a standard rezoning document to me. At least in Toronto, something like that is made up for every tower. They just don't always get uploaded online for public viewing.
     
     
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This project has a leg up on the Couture in that it won’t be facing lawsuits and doesn’t require a land sale approval from local government. One has to feel the market for high end apartments will be saturated in the next 5 years but I would bet this one makes makes it off the ground because everything is lined up. The Couture or some project will still be built on that spot because it is prime real estate, it might be another phase of the North End, Avenir, or the proposed complex on Prospect by Dominion Properties that suffers instead.
     
     
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it might be another phase of the North End, Avenir, or the proposed complex on Prospect by Dominion Properties that suffers instead.
Please post all of those in the compilation thread because I don't know anything about the Avenir or Dominion projects.
     
     
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Please post all of those in the compilation thread because I don't know anything about the Avenir or Dominion projects.
Steely mentioned SSC, but have you actually checked? They've got a Milwaukee and a Madison thread. Go see for yourself!
     
     
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^LVDW, someone over at SSC said they found an elevation with a graphic scale on it and that the building actually scales out to ~400' tall, so for now, i'm gonna put that in the thread title, unless you have better info that the building will be closer to 350'.


anyway, it looks like a good project for milwaukee.

the design looks interesting, but it has that kind of "it looks pretty cool as a rendering , but it could be an utter train wreck once the VE vultures rip it apart" look. sort of like what happened with The Moderne.
I like The Moderne.
     
     
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Steely mentioned SSC, but have you actually checked? They've got a Milwaukee and a Madison thread. Go see for yourself!
Thanks, I never go to SSC because I find the site utterly confusing in terms of how it is organized. I couldn't ever find anything so I stopped trying. Now that I have that link I'll probably follow those other Midwestern threads. I'm also interested in Madison which seems to be on a perpetual growth spurt.
     
     
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I like The Moderne.
meh.

it's not a train wreck, but it was VE'ed pretty bad. just compare a rendering of it to the finished product.




source: http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2013/06/17...f-its-swagger/ source: http://condos.themoderne.net/
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a small update about the project from a forumer over at SSC:

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I watched the City Plan Commission meeting today and saw some very positive and inviting projects on the way.

The proposed new residential tower at the northeast corner of Kilbourn and Van Buren (700 E. Kilbourn) got a very positive response. They may have some issues with the glass chosen for the building as being too dark but my guess is that will be worked out through the process. Overall exterior design is really awesome. Have to see some interior renderings but overall would fit well in the skyline.
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Downtown Milwaukee apartment high-rise gains another approval
Oct 7, 2014, 10:24am CDT
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Plans for a 37-story tower with high-end apartments near downtown Milwaukee on Tuesday gained another key endorsement from the city.

Chicago-based Carroll Properties proposes the building, with 275 apartments, at North Van Buren Street and East Kilbourn Avenue. Milwaukee’s Zoning, Neighborhoods and Development Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved the project, sending it to the Common Council for a final vote.

The approval came after a short discussion between Carroll Properties president Bob King and aldermen over participation by minority workers on the construction project. Ald. Willie Wade prompted the talk after confirming the project is not seeking city subsidy. Historically, Milwaukee officials have placed participation requirements on projects that receive city money.
full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee...ise-gains.html
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Downtown luxury apartments on Edwardo's site sail through Milwaukee Common Council
Oct 14, 2014, 4:04pm CDT
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A 37-story luxury apartment tower on North Van Buren Street in Milwaukee completed a smooth trip through the city approval process Tuesday with unanimous approval from the city’s Common Council.

Chicago developer Carroll Properties proposes the building and 275 apartments at North Van Buren and East Kilbourn Avenue, where the vacant Edwardo’s Restaurant stands now. The developer last week described the project to a Milwaukee Common Council committee as ultra-luxury with hotel-type amenities.
full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee...site-sail.html
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a post from SSC, it looks like this could be a potential 20 story apartment building proposed across the street from the 700 E Kilbourn proposal.


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Alright, sooooo, you all know how the developers of 700 E Kilbourn told us that they were conducting a study to determine if there was a strong enough market for their proposed structure? Well, looking at the proposed structures on BidClerk again, I found a proposal for "the construction of a 20-story, 483,800-square-foot building to be constructed containing 230 residential units" so, I typed that into google along with "Milwaukee" and I found this:

http://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibra...Kilbournas.pdf

from the same people. It mentions a 2015 Start date and that it is in the design stage. Estimated start date is Monday, March 2nd, 2015. https://www.bidclerk.com/project/2927459.html
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from an SSC forumer. it looks like this one could be heading toward a shrinkage. however, even with 7 fewer floors, it would still be tall enough to have a pretty good skyline impact.

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Bad news, I'm reading multiple sources saying that the project is going to be scaled back quite a bit due to the results of the Market Study.

The project was originally proposed to be 36/37 floors (depending on if you count the roof or not) and now will most likely be falling down to 29/30 floors.

Eliminated will be floors 27-32 of the residential space and one floor of parking space.

This will leave the tower basically on par with the height that we have over at The Moderne.

Here is an excellent photo of the difference and the impact the changes have on the overall building design:

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