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[Skyguy_7]

Originally Posted by Ned.B

But I assume that the parking must at least extend some into the constructed tower portion, as otherwise these south facing areas would have no windows.

As Harry noted, you can see a lot of green rebar in the tower portion, likely where parking ramps continue. Although, I see no rebar sticking out of the Southwest quadrant, which could mean these will be windows, which would be nice.

[simon07]

Originally Posted by intrepidDesign

Could this be why we've never seen a rendering of the south elevation? I've always been curious as to what this side of the building will look like. My guess is we will have a multi story blank wall until we hit the amenity deck.

It will be the largest blank wall in Chicago probably.

[Kngkyle]

Originally Posted by simon07

It will be the largest blank wall in Chicago probably.

Until phase 2 is built.... assuming it's built.

[UPChicago]

it seems like a blank wall if the model is accurate, they must be confident the second phase is going to happen.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

they must be confident the second phase is going to happen.

a phase 2 WILL be built.

it's just a matter of when.

the site is so ridiculously prime that even if it doesn't make it in this cycle, it will in the next one or two.

a lot zoned for a 900' tower at the corner of michigan and roosevelt with forever guaranteed lake and park views is not gonna sit vacant for the next 100 years.

[UPChicago]

^ I agree, I mean confident the proposed phase 2 design will be built.

[jc5680]

Eh, maybe they are confident, but I don't think the design is really an indication of that. The large party wall is handled no differently than how other developments built to the lot line are.

[Notyrview]

If the market doesn't tank it could be 5 years

[BVictor1]

08/04/17

[harryc]

Aug 8

[aaron38]

Bears game tonight. Is the tower crane visible from inside the stadium yet? From what I hear, watching this climb into the skyline may be the most exciting part of the games this season.

And can someone estimate what height the crane is at? I've been keeping a watch for it, and can easily see 1160 S. Michigan (~500ft) but can't pick out the crane yet.

[Pioneer]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

a phase 2 WILL be built.

it's just a matter of when.

the site is so ridiculously prime that even if it doesn't make it in this cycle, it will in the next one or two.

a lot zoned for a 900' tower at the corner of michigan and roosevelt with forever guaranteed lake and park views is not gonna sit vacant for the next 100 years.

Looking at the render, it looks like the second tower will be ~960-980'. Any chance it becomes a supertall? That would be so nice down there.

[J_M_Tungsten]

These look good as a pair, but I would rather the next tower be different. I was always partial to the original site plan where all 4 building were different. Yes, some were whimsical in design, but the variety was interesting.

[KWILLSKYLINE]

^^^ I loved the original design of tower three with that half oval curve all the way up. Tower four was almost like this current design but it was plated gold.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by Pioneer

Looking at the render, it looks like the second tower will be ~960-980'. Any chance it becomes a supertall? That would be so nice down there.

No chance Phase 2 will be supertall. The area is zoned for max 900' to the ceiling of the highest occupied unit. You can have mechanical levels, etc, above that, but they wouldn't have 100' of unoccupied mechanical space.

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

No chance Phase 2 will be supertall. The area is zoned for max 900' to the ceiling of the highest occupied unit. You can have mechanical levels, etc, above that, but they wouldn't have 100' of unoccupied mechanical space.

It's not like that 900' "threshold" can't be changed.

Al they have to do is ask...

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

It's not like that 900' "threshold" can't be changed.

Al they have to do is ask...

Yeah, the guy is acting like height limits have never been changed in the history of Chicago. I mean Helmut Jahn's building may have had a reduction to 832ft, but that is well above what was the original Michigan Avenue height restrictions.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire

Yeah, the guy is acting like height limits have never been changed in the history of Chicago. I mean Helmut Jahn's building may have had a reduction to 832ft, but that is well above what was the original Michigan Avenue height restrictions.

It may be possible for the restriction to change, but I am telling you as a guy who worked for Vinoly and spent 9 months of my life on the design of phase 2 that it is not going to be supertall.
unless that changed since I left....

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

It may be possible for the restriction to change, but I am telling you as a guy who worked for Vinoly and spent 9 months of my life on the design of phase 2 that it is not going to be supertall.
unless that changed since I left....

Well the designs have already changed multiple times, so it seems very possible to me that the height would change over time. All depends on when these 9 months were.

[aaron38]

Did the foundation support it? (Getting ot I know).