1166 West Pender | 121.6m | 32fl | 360,868 sqft | Proposed - Page 3

mcminsen · #41 Posted **Sep 17, 2019, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Does anyone know when the groundbreaking for this one might begin? Despite its tabletop-adherent height (as Metro implied earlier), this is rather a sleek-looking building, .... IMO.

There will be a bit of demolishing first. Here's the building currently on the site...

Nov.12 ’18, my pics

...

If we look at the 1090 West Pender demolition for comparison, it's taken about 10 months to get from this...

Nov.12 ’18, my pic

to this...

Sept.10 '19, my pic

Demolishing a building in the City of Vancouver is a long and painstaking process. Hazardous materials (asbestos, lead, etc.) all have to be carefully removed. All the other stuff has to be separated and dealt with in an environmentally friendly way. Even the window panes at 1090 West Pender were individually removed by hand.

I will keep an eye on 1166 West Pender and if and when the place looks closed down and the demo company has moved in then I would guess that it could take at least a year for the site prep (demolition).

LeftCoaster · #42 Posted **Sep 19, 2019, 11:48 PM**

They also need to pre-lease the thing...

Metro-One · #43 Posted **Sep 20, 2019, 2:02 AM**

Still seems like such a waste to tear down a building of that size to replace with one that is only 122 metres in height in the core of the downtown central business district.

How is that green again?

Not that it is a bad design, would be happy to see it at another less prominent location (or at one that doesn’t require taking down an existing office tower), but at this location is underwhelming.

trofirhen · #44 Posted **Sep 20, 2019, 2:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Still seems like such a waste to tear down a building of that size to replace with one that is only 122 metres in height in the core of the downtown central business district.

How is that green again?

Not that it is a bad design, would be happy to see it at another less prominent location (or at one that doesn’t require taking down an existing office tower), but at this location is underwhelming.

I know what you mean, Metro, but reality is reality; what is, is, and you're just going to have to flow with it.
One thing, though ,much of West Pender, IMO, is cluttered with ugly, rather "bitty" buildings, so even if if this one isn't tall enough for you, it and 1090 will add a lot to the streetscape...IMO

Vin · #45 Posted **Sep 20, 2019, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Still seems like such a waste to tear down a building of that size to replace with one that is only 122 metres in height in the core of the downtown central business district.

How is that green again?

Not that it is a bad design, would be happy to see it at another less prominent location (or at one that doesn’t require taking down an existing office tower), but at this location is underwhelming.

I totally agree with you.

Blame our CBD/downtown zoning policies. If the financial district were allowed to grow organically rather than constrained like now, no existing towers would need to be torn down. This is indeed very ungreen and a huge waste of resources. It only serves to drive up the costs of the new structure.

We are seeing this happening to numerous structures on the peninsula. With a commercial space crunch, this City should be adding more space to the existing stock, not removing them to be replaced by something a little larger a number of years later. That time gap to get it completed, which would actually see a net reduction of commercial space, will definitely cost us dearly.

Feathered Friend · #46 Posted **Jul 23, 2020, 11:46 PM**

https://twitter.com/vancouvermrkt/st...198312448?s=20

https://twitter.com/vancouvermrkt/st...198312448?s=20

There's been a small change to height, and floor area

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1166 W Pender Street - DP-2020-00345
1166 Pender Holdings Ltd. has applied to the City of Vancouver to develop the site, consisting of a 32-storey office building with commercial retail at grade. The proposal includes:

a building height of 112.4 m (395.83 ft.);
a total floor area of 33,568 sq. m (361,329 sq. ft.);
a Floor Space Ratio (FSR) of 19.40;
ground floor commercial retail space;
twenty-nine levels of office space and one level of amenity space above; and
six levels of underground parking with 130 vehicle parking spaces, 12 loading bays, and 242 bicycle parking spaces.

We welcome your written comments (letter or e-mail) on this development application. Comments should be received on, or before August 7, 2020, to be considered in the staff review. However, written comments will be considered up until the date of decision.

https://development.vancouver.ca/1166wpender/index.htm

Find more renderings at :
https://development.vancouver.ca/116...renderings.pdf

officedweller · #47 Posted **Jul 24, 2020, 12:23 AM**

The lighting plan looks promising:

https://development.vancouver.ca/116...ghtingplan.pdf

rofina · #48 Posted **Jul 24, 2020, 4:19 PM**

Looks good.

I hope for nicer glazing to execute on the "pulled up skirt" look better than the one going up by waterfront station.

officedweller · #49 Posted **Jul 25, 2020, 1:19 AM**

I'm expecting the glazing to look like this project by the same archietcts.

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Originally Posted by officedweller

7 St. Thomas by Hariri Pontarini Architects

https://www.blogto.com/city/2017/03/...fice-building/

Metro-One · #50 Posted **Jul 25, 2020, 1:34 AM**

I like the look of this tower.

Of course wish it was taller...

But the lighting will be a nice addition and it is big enough to have presence.

Feathered Friend · #51 Posted **Oct 23, 2020, 6:25 PM**

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Vancouver’s Office Building Evolution Overcomes A Tough Climb To Win Urban Design Panel Support

1166 W Pender Street – DP-2020-00345
I had hoped this would be a short Urban Design Panel review as, like many other couples, Hannah and I have had a rather tough year, and one lacking in quality time together. That wasn’t an unreasonable expectation, as last year’s group had supported this office building’s rezoning application without any recommendations, and city council approved it a couple months later. Unfortunately, city staff encouraged the opposite, noting development application reviews should be more fussy as they’re more real.

These stumbling blocks are nothing new, as this project has been largely shaped by city policy. Like The Stack across the lane, its height was reduced (pg 18) due to a prohibition on increased shadowing of Harbour Green Park, while its rooftop was carved due to its proximity to an adjacent building. Now, as a condition of approval these terraces have been lined with semi-opaque glass to ensure any furnishing on them remains hidden from those on the streets below.

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/1...panel-support/

Mininari · #52 Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 7:39 PM**

Construction expected to begin this year on new major Vancouver office tower

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1166...ce-tower-hines

Now being marketed as the first new tower with covid-19 inspired design elements.

mcminsen · #53 Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 8:15 PM**

Good to hear. That's another big demo. Might be a couple of years (or more) before we see a hole with a crane in it, though.

I'm looking forward to the curved glass!

Here's an image from the article that I don't think we've seen.

source: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1166...ines?auto=true

jollyburger · #54 Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by mcminsen

Good to hear. That's another big demo. Might be a couple of years (or more) before we see a hole with a crane in it, though.

If they start demoing in the fall they probably start on the foundation by the end of 2022.

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Delivery is scheduled for late 2024 or early 2025. Stovell said while the project is being undertaken on spec – there is no committed anchor tenant – both he and Hines expect the market to return to pre-COVID-type fundamentals by that time.

trofirhen · #55 Posted **Mar 27, 2021, 10:13 PM**

Yes, so good to hear. I was wondering when this one would get the go-ahead. It will, along with 1090, remake that part of Pender Street into a nice streetwall.

Mininari · #56 Posted **Mar 28, 2021, 1:50 AM**

Yes, and The Stack, looming in the background, stepping up in height to Shangri-La and T**** Tower. Should be a really nice varied height clustering effect of new buildings, as observed from Stanley Park or from the Harbour

Changing City · #57 Posted **Mar 28, 2021, 6:57 PM**

The fact that Hines is partnering on this tower is quite a big deal. I know they've been looking at Vancouver for a possible development for many years, so the fact that they're involved is a significant vote of confidence.

LeftCoaster · #58 Posted **Apr 7, 2021, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The fact that Hines is partnering on this tower is quite a big deal. I know they've been looking at Vancouver for a possible development for many years, so the fact that they're involved is a significant vote of confidence.

The fact that they're involved is big but that they're intending to build on spec is absolutely massive.

What a vote of confidence from a major player in both Vancouver's economy and office market coming out of Covid.

Mininari · #59 Posted **Jan 11, 2022, 5:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

This render appears to show another interesting project by reliance properties, the 46 storey proposed residential rental tower on the parkade at 1075 W. Georgia (new glassy tower just above the Stack).

Vin · #60 Posted **Jan 12, 2022, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

The fact that Hines is partnering on this tower is quite a big deal. I know they've been looking at Vancouver for a possible development for many years, so the fact that they're involved is a significant vote of confidence.

I wonder what's taking them so long to find a development to build.