How will Windsor grow in the next decade?

[Nil]

How will Windsor grow in the next decade?

1. Population
From what I can tell right now everything is selling in Windsor to the point that it's becoming hard to find property in West-Windsor. From the 2011 to 2016 census, as Windsor was recovering economically, it actually grew in that period by 3%. Windsor should be seeing exponential growth now that its economy is booming. Windsor still has a population density a lot higher than London and growing. LaSalle and Lakeshore will be growing a lot too.

2. Construction
Property construction is mainly new homes in East and South Windsor, however, West-Windsor is really picking itself up and becoming a hot market as people are renovating their homes and fixing up old properties. I think it is safe to say that we can expect some new apartment buildings sprawling up next year if this trend continues as Windsor has run out of space in the West-end

Overall I think Windsor is headed on the right track and is attracting a lot of attention, especially as an alternative to Toronto.

What do you think will happen to 1. population and 2. construction in the city of Windsor? Do you think Lasalle and/or Tecumseh will be amalgamated in the next decade?

[north 42]

I'm very optimistic about Windsor's future. The economy is booming and is slowly becoming more diversified, the housing market is very hot, and our population is growing again after a rough decade of stagnation.
I'm expecting more residential high rises to be proposed for the DT in the coming years, and more infil in the urban, central part of the city, especially multi residential and townhouses.
I think that our oldest urban neighbourhoods like Sandwich and Ford City will eventually go the way of Olde Walkerville, becoming gentrified and vibrant, especially the old commercial parts.
Im hoping Tecumseh and Lasalle will be amalgamated with Windsor, creating a better and healthier core city. It really should have happened in the last round of provincial amalgamations, but it never happened unfortunately!

[Blitz]

From what I've gathered there is a huge study going on at city hall right now to determine what is the best way to encourage smart urban development in the core areas of the city. The city councillors involved in this have described it as a "game changer" for the core so I'm interested to see exactly what it involves when it is released in the coming months. By "core" I'm referring to all the neighbourhoods from Sandwich through downtown to Ford City.

There is so much potential in the core areas of the city given the dense urban walkable network of streets. The bones are all there. I think the success of downtown Detroit's rebirth is going to create a spillover effect too. Windsor can only do so much to promote smart urban development though. It's a bit disheartening to see the sprawl continue in the outer suburbs (especially Lakeshore). The total lack of any regional planning remains a problem. Amalgamation should have indeed happened long ago.

[north 42]

Here's an encouraging article about the influx of infill developments in the urban core of the city. Hope this continues!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windso...nomy-1.4116745

[Blitz]

^ Good stuff. The area that needs the most help is just to the southeast of the casino. If something actually happens in the vacant lots around there then we know we're in business. The Glengarry housing projects nearby are somewhat of a barrier to downtown's success. I'd like to see that entire area redeveloped but the problem is we already have a shortage of affordable housing.

[Nil]

^ It's the old city planning that is responsible for this. They built subsidized Windsor housing in that area. I do see the street adjacent to that area improving which leads me to believe development will eventually reach it.

[Symz]

Originally Posted by north 42

Here's an encouraging article about the influx of infill developments in the urban core of the city. Hope this continues!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windso...nomy-1.4116745

Here's another article about how the recent building boom is completely bypassing the core actually.

Source: http://windsorstar.com/news/local-ne...ing-citys-core

I think the city is on an upswing but not able to convince buyers, or builders to move downtown. Downtown is still for the most part disfunctional in regards to living there and working there and is missing many little things. I see the city growing, but staying roughly the same in the downtown core for the next 5 years at least.

[north 42]

Originally Posted by Symz

Here's another article about how the recent building boom is completely bypassing the core actually.

Source: http://windsorstar.com/news/local-ne...ing-citys-core

I think the city is on an upswing but not able to convince buyers, or builders to move downtown. Downtown is still for the most part disfunctional in regards to living there and working there and is missing many little things. I see the city growing, but staying roughly the same in the downtown core for the next 5 years at least.

IDK, I'm seeing new homes being built on old lots in and around DT already, also a fair amount of renovations going on around the area as well. I'm actually expecting to see even more interest in the city core in the next few years.

I happen to both live and work DT, and there is nothing disfunctional about it!

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by Symz

Here's another article about how the recent building boom is completely bypassing the core actually.

Source: http://windsorstar.com/news/local-ne...ing-citys-core

I think the city is on an upswing but not able to convince buyers, or builders to move downtown. Downtown is still for the most part disfunctional in regards to living there and working there and is missing many little things. I see the city growing, but staying roughly the same in the downtown core for the next 5 years at least.

Today's CBC article is referring to new proposals from builders coming to the planning committee whereas the Windsor Star article from last month is referring to actual development that people can see. That's a big difference. Give it time.

[Symz]

Originally Posted by north 42

I happen to both live and work DT, and there is nothing disfunctional about it!

My wife worked downtown for over a decade in administration. I would often hear about dt's deficciencies. Where can you buy office supplies downtown? Where can you do something like get a copy of a key made for a new employeee downtown? Where can I get 100 copies of something made up? Where can you buy flowers downtown? Is there a baker downtown? A butcher? A grocery store IN the core? Where can I buy a pair of socks downtown? Is there a pet store downtown? Is there a hardware store? What if I need nails or screws? Can I find a camera downtown if I was a tourist visiting? Where can I buy electronics downtown? Can I buy any furniture downtown? Can I buy paint to paint my living room downtown? Where can I get my car serviced in the core?

For the most part downtown is pretty much serviced by a handful of convenience stores, Shoppers, and the dollar store. Stop looking at downtown through rose coloured glasses, downtown still has a long way to go before droves of people are going to move down there.

There are long time companies like Red Piston and Netmon that have just recently vacated downtown and there are still many empty buildings downtown, and as well vacant lots. Farhi owns a handful of prime pieces of property but is more of a speculator than an actual builder. We have an ENTIRE BLOCK that has been vacant for as long as I can remember that's adjacent to the casino that was supposed to revitalize the downtown.

I'm not saying that there isn't positive momentum in the city, but I don't think we're going to see residential high rises going up in the downtown in the next 5 years, and I'd maybe wager as far as the next 7-10 years. I see medium residential developments rising in scattered areas of the city over the next 5 years and if we're lucky maybe medium residential in the downtown in the next 4-8 years.

That's my 2 cents.

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by Symz

My wife worked downtown for over a decade in administration. I would often hear about dt's deficciencies. Where can you buy office supplies downtown? Where can you do something like get a copy of a key made for a new employeee downtown? Where can I get 100 copies of something made up? Where can you buy flowers downtown? Is there a baker downtown? A butcher? A grocery store IN the core? Where can I buy a pair of socks downtown? Is there a pet store downtown? Is there a hardware store? What if I need nails or screws? Can I find a camera downtown if I was a tourist visiting? Where can I buy electronics downtown? Can I buy any furniture downtown? Can I buy paint to paint my living room downtown? Where can I get my car serviced in the core?

I live in downtown London and I could say much of the same. Similar story in downtown Kitchener. Same for just about every mid-sized city in North America. We have to start somewhere.

[north 42]

Originally Posted by Symz

My wife worked downtown for over a decade in administration. I would often hear about dt's deficciencies. Where can you buy office supplies downtown? Where can you do something like get a copy of a key made for a new employeee downtown? Where can I get 100 copies of something made up? Where can you buy flowers downtown? Is there a baker downtown? A butcher? A grocery store IN the core? Where can I buy a pair of socks downtown? Is there a pet store downtown? Is there a hardware store? What if I need nails or screws? Can I find a camera downtown if I was a tourist visiting? Where can I buy electronics downtown? Can I buy any furniture downtown? Can I buy paint to paint my living room downtown? Where can I get my car serviced in the core?

For the most part downtown is pretty much serviced by a handful of convenience stores, Shoppers, and the dollar store. Stop looking at downtown through rose coloured glasses, downtown still has a long way to go before droves of people are going to move down there.

There are long time companies like Red Piston and Netmon that have just recently vacated downtown and there are still many empty buildings downtown, and as well vacant lots. Farhi owns a handful of prime pieces of property but is more of a speculator than an actual builder. We have an ENTIRE BLOCK that has been vacant for as long as I can remember that's adjacent to the casino that was supposed to revitalize the downtown.

I'm not saying that there isn't positive momentum in the city, but I don't think we're going to see residential high rises going up in the downtown in the next 5 years, and I'd maybe wager as far as the next 7-10 years. I see medium residential developments rising in scattered areas of the city over the next 5 years and if we're lucky maybe medium residential in the downtown in the next 4-8 years.

That's my 2 cents.

You act as if every neighbourhood has all of these amenities, which would be very unusual. I have no problem getting anything I need either DT or in and around the area. I can walk and buy all these things if I want, no problem.

I just had a key copied right DT last week, I walked to Food Basics yesterday which is in DT, right behind the library and only two blocks from the tunnel entrance, flowers on Victoria, socks anywhere! You can buy furniture right on Maiden Lane by the way! You can get your car serviced on Wyandotte St, there are butchers on Wyandotte st. as well. You obviously haven't tried to get any of these items in and around DT, because I can basically get all of those items easily!

Rose coloured glasses? I just don't get your constant negative posts and responses! I can't remember the last time you posted anything even remotely positive! You must be wearing shit coloured glasses then!

[Blitz]

^ At least Windsor has a grocery store downtown (unlike London).

[north 42]

Originally Posted by Blitz

^ At least Windsor has a grocery store downtown (unlike London).

Well for some reason Symz seems to think that we don't have a grocery store DT, which is ridiculous considering it's only two blocks from the tunnel entrance!?!?

[hagbard]

I was born in Windsor, lived in BC for twenty years and returned to the area in 2008. I just don't see the appeal of Windsor from any point of view and can't see how it will grow in the future. The current market is being driven by a fake economy and retirees from Toronto and Vancouver which will dry up when those markets collapse. Just crazy.

[north 42]

Originally Posted by hagbard

I was born in Windsor, lived in BC for twenty years and returned to the area in 2008. I just don't see the appeal of Windsor from any point of view and can't see how it will grow in the future. The current market is being driven by a fake economy and retirees from Toronto and Vancouver which will dry up when those markets collapse. Just crazy.

Fake economy, lol, sure bro

[Symz]

Originally Posted by north 42

Well for some reason Symz seems to think that we don't have a grocery store DT, which is ridiculous considering it's only two blocks from the tunnel entrance!?!?

According to what the city defines as the city centre, the Food Basics just eeks into as being considered in the "downtown".

http://www.citywindsor.ca/visitors/M...e%20detail.pdf


That's quite a trek if you lived in say, the apartment building at Riverside & Carron, which is also in the city centre.

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by north 42

Fake economy, lol, sure bro

Right, because the 1200 new jobs in the minivan plant and the hundreds of spinoff jobs in the auto sector are all 'fake'. Damn trolls.

[north 42]

Originally Posted by Symz

According to what the city defines as the city centre, the Food Basics just eeks into as being considered in the "downtown".

http://www.citywindsor.ca/visitors/M...e%20detail.pdf


That's quite a trek if you lived in say, the apartment building at Riverside & Carron, which is also in the city centre.

Still, it may not be perfectly centred in the middle of DT, but it's not like it's that far to walk to from anywhere in DT. And how many neighbourhoods have a full grocery store every 8 blocks? Not very many. Its just not realistic to expect a grocery store within walking distance for everybody in every neighbourhood. Some people will have to go further than others, why should DT be any different?

[north 42]

Originally Posted by Blitz

Right, because the 1200 new jobs in the minivan plant and the hundreds of spinoff jobs in the auto sector are all 'fake'. Damn trolls.

I know! Go back to BC already!