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Old Posted May 15, 2018, 3:00 PM
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Putting the stadium at limeridge would be a horrible idea....in the suburbs with horrible traffic already ....the NIMBYs would fight it ....and the city would look so ameture by moving the stadium out of the dt core .... Why would you not want the crowds in the core?!? Next to the transit lines and LRT ....
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Old Posted May 15, 2018, 3:06 PM
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Putting the stadium at limeridge would be a horrible idea....in the suburbs with horrible traffic already ....the NIMBYs would fight it ....and the city would look so ameture by moving the stadium out of the dt core .... Why would you not want the crowds in the core?!? Next to the transit lines and LRT ....
Indeed. FOC is already in an ideal location - moving a main arena out to the suburbs is a recipe for disaster. Keeping it DT should be the priority.
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Old Posted May 15, 2018, 4:37 PM
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Putting the stadium at limeridge would be a horrible idea....in the suburbs with horrible traffic already ....the NIMBYs would fight it ....and the city would look so ameture by moving the stadium out of the dt core .... Why would you not want the crowds in the core?!? Next to the transit lines and LRT ....
Some higher-ups with the Bulldogs are not behind the LRT. Some suburban councillors have got in their ear.
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I'm hearing Limeridge Mall. From a very good source.

Limeridge would be a terrible idea. Wrong location. Donna Skelly is driving the suburb arena idea, but she’ll be a provincial mpp in a couple of months. Plus you can bet the lower city cllrs will fight for the arena downtown.

Edit: i did hear some talk from bulldogs staff that they felt they could significantly increase season tickets if they build their arena where their fans are, which they seem to believe is the mountain. Dont agree with it though. LRT would be great for the bulldogs. Think of all the mac students they could lure, as well as east end residents.
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Some higher-ups with the Bulldogs are not behind the LRT. Some suburban councillors have got in their ear.
If they’re going to pay 100% of the cost they can build it wherever they want. Every arena in canada is built downtown for good reason however. Traffic is already a mess by the mall. When i go to a concert or game i want to head out downtown for nightlife, not some suburban chain restaurant in a parking lot.

I dont see Carmens and their LA contacts building their entertainment district at limeridge mall. Carmens is very invested in the core as evidenced by moving their head office downtown.
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The city missed a great opportunity to put Tim Hortons Field right by Mac. There is a plot of land on Aberdeen and Longwood and I’m sure the city could have made a move to get it. The area is directly off the highway, in very close distance to Mac and in a 4km radius of 6 schools. The area has lots of parking and is near several bus routes. Now Tims is in downtown in a not very ideal location with minimal parking nearby.

I’m not saying a new arena should be built there but during the school year, I’m sure tons of Mac students would flee to the arena to witness hockey games and concerts since it’s in very close range to student homes.
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I'm hearing Limeridge Mall. From a very good source.
It would be a colossal disaster to take the arena out of the downtown. Why would we take a sports and entertainment destination like that and put it in the suburbs? Makes no sense.
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The city missed a great opportunity to put Tim Hortons Field right by Mac. There is a plot of land on Aberdeen and Longwood and I’m sure the city could have made a move to get it. The area is directly off the highway, in very close distance to Mac and in a 4km radius of 6 schools. The area has lots of parking and is near several bus routes. Now Tims is in downtown in a not very ideal location with minimal parking nearby.

I’m not saying a new arena should be built there but during the school year, I’m sure tons of Mac students would flee to the arena to witness hockey games and concerts since it’s in very close range to student homes.
This was probably the most absolutely idiotic thing Hamilton has ever done. Unless they cancel the LRT. Then I am just going to be seething for the next 10 years at city council.

Especially when they decide to do the B-Line LRT in 15 years after it is way too late.
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Another heavyweight woos City of Hamilton venues
SMG which manages more than 200 facilities worldwide is headquartered in Philadelphia but owned by Onex a Canadian firm

https://www.thespec.com/opinion-stor...milton-venues/

Hamilton's downtown entertainment facilities have attracted another solid-gold suitor.

SMG, a global sports, entertainment and venue management player, has notified city officials it's also interested in bidding for the rights to manage the city-owned arena, concert hall and convention centre.

"If the city is going to have a competitive bidding process for the entertainment facilities, SMG would be interested in looking at the opportunity," Harry Cann, SMG regional vice-president of Canadian operations, said in an interview,

The company's interest comes fast on the heels of a similar unsolicited offer from the Hamilton-based Carmen's Group and its new partner the Oak View Group, a major Los Angeles-based event booking, venue management and development company.

Both proposals arrive as the city is wrestling with contract expirations and renewals at the three buildings.

Spectra, a multibillion-dollar venue, hospitality and sports and entertainment company based in Philadelphia, holds the existing five-year management contract for FirstOntario Centre and FirstOntario Concert Hall. Carmen's holds the contract for the convention centre but is now making a play to run all three venues.

Both the Spectra and Carmen's contracts expire Dec. 31. The city needs to notify them if it intends to renew the contracts no later than August 3.

This sudden eruption of new proposals means city staff will have to present recommendations to council as soon as possible. Options could include simply rolling over the existing contracts for another five years or opening them up to a full or limited competitive bidding process.

SMG, which manages more than 200 facilities worldwide, is headquartered in Philadelphia but owned by Onex Corp., a Canadian firm based in Toronto. The company is no stranger to the Hamilton venues.

SMG unsuccessfully took part in the original 2013 process, which saw council scrap the city agency HECFI and turn management of the former Copps Coliseum and Hamilton Place over to Spectra and the Convention Centre to Carmen's.

Back then, SMG partnered with Hamilton's Sonic Unyon and Forum Equity, a Toronto development company. Sonic Unyon is an independent record label with organizing links to the award-winning annual Supercrawl festival downtown.

Cann says SMG doesn't know if this time around they would bid by themselves or partner with others. "We'd have to look at the scope of the procurement and the goals of the city for the venues."

Mayor Fred Eisenberger is "delighted" by this rush of interest from the heavyweight companies. He says it speaks well for the standing of the facilities and city as a whole.

"They see opportunity and that opportunity bodes well for the city in terms of our subsidy and facility management, as well as future development."

Council privatized management of the three venues in 2013 to reduce swelling taxpayer subsidies. Between them, Spectra and Carmen's have now saved the city an estimated $5 million.

Under the current contract, Spectra still receives an annual $1.4 million subsidy from the city. Carmen's, having eliminated its subsidy, suggests it can provide "improved financial arrangements" if given the chance to run all three facilities.

Spectra regional vice-president Tim Murphy says his company is pleased with it's track record in Hamilton, its partnership with concert promoter Live Nation Canada, and the prospect of having its contract renewed for another five years.

"We're confident we can do a better job than anybody," he said.

If council, however, opts for a new competitive process, Murphy says Spectra is open to bidding for management rights to all three venues.

"If it does go out to bid and there's an opportunity to bid on other facilities, we certainly would do it."

That potentially puts Spectra, SMG and Carmen's in a three-way battle, essentially a rematch of the 2013 contest. This time around, however, Carmen's has another card up its sleeve.

Although the company is willing to take part in any process council chooses, a Carmen's-led consortium also plans to present the city with a proposal for a public-private partnership aimed at redeveloping the aging facilities and surrounding lands.

That means, as Eisenberger notes, council may soon be deciding what's best for the venues in both the short and long term.
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Whatever Fred. Does the name Sgro keep you up at night. You and Thorne and Farr all these who oppose density and height.
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The logo was unveiled for Hamilton's new Canadian Elite Basketball League (CEBL) team. They'll be playing at FirstOntario Centre...

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Old Posted Jun 12, 2018, 9:13 PM
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What a joke of a league. Doubt there’s a market for amateur basketball.
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haha I'm sorry, but all I can think of is the honey badger video..

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I had a chuckle and WTF-moment seeing the name at first. Didn't know the animals were such nasty, tough little bastards.

I wish they would have picked a name with some local or regional connection though. But tigers had nothing to do with us either when that name was originally used for football, and true to form it's likely Honey Badgers don't give a shit.
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I had a chuckle and WTF-moment seeing the name at first. Didn't know the animals were such nasty, tough little bastards.

I wish they would have picked a name with some local or regional connection though. But tigers had nothing to do with us either when that name was originally used for football, and true to form it's likely Honey Badgers don't give a shit.
honey badger don't care - honey badger smacks the shit out of it
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