HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive


    Eleven Times Square in the SkyscraperPage Database

Building Data Page   • Comparison Diagram   • New York Skyscraper Diagram

Map Location
New York Projects & Construction Forum

 

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #41  
Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 3:43 AM
Antares41's Avatar
Antares41 Antares41 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bflo/Pgh/Msn/NYC
Posts: 2,145
Its a shame that most of the lower facade will be covered with signage.
     
     
  #42  
Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 7:35 PM
NYC4Life's Avatar
NYC4Life NYC4Life is offline
The Time To Build Is Now
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC
Posts: 3,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares41 View Post
Its a shame that most of the lower facade will be covered with signage.

It is required by law for any new and existing building in the Times Square area to display illuminated signs. The area is specifically Zoned for that purpose.
__________________
"I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps"
     
     
  #43  
Old Posted Oct 31, 2008, 7:56 PM
NYC4Life's Avatar
NYC4Life NYC4Life is offline
The Time To Build Is Now
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC
Posts: 3,004
By: rudynorff - Skyscrapercity

__________________
"I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps"
     
     
  #44  
Old Posted Nov 13, 2008, 9:15 PM
NYC4Life's Avatar
NYC4Life NYC4Life is offline
The Time To Build Is Now
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC
Posts: 3,004
This tower has topped out.

By: d-arch - Flickr

__________________
"I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps"
     
     
  #45  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 4:26 AM
HyperPower's Avatar
HyperPower HyperPower is offline
"Think about the Future"
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New York City/ NH
Posts: 224


Nasty little shot I found on Flickr.com.
__________________
'One entered the city like a god; one scuttles in now like a rat' (On Penn Station) Vincent Skully
     
     
  #46  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 5:44 AM
Jularc's Avatar
Jularc Jularc is offline
Time/Space
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,363
^ Awesome shot!


Took these shots two days ago...












     
     
  #47  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 8:11 AM
Fabb's Avatar
Fabb Fabb is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Paris
Posts: 9,019
This one is progressing fast.
I think I've seen that rounded corner before.
4 Times Square ?
     
     
  #48  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 10:41 PM
NYC2ATX's Avatar
NYC2ATX NYC2ATX is offline
Everywhere all at once
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SI NYC
Posts: 2,448
The glass is so glossy and fantastic. I can't wait for this one to be completely covered and weighed down with awesome signage. What a corner 8th and 42nd will be soon!
__________________
BUILD IT. BUILD EVERYTHING. BUILD IT ALL.
     
     
  #49  
Old Posted Dec 2, 2008, 11:59 PM
NYC4Life's Avatar
NYC4Life NYC4Life is offline
The Time To Build Is Now
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC
Posts: 3,004
NY Times

New Subway Entrance Opens Window to an Old, Coal-Heated New York


Michael Appleton for The New York Times
Contractors work at night at Eighth Avenue and 42nd Street. Vaults used for storing coal were under the roadway, a relic of a time when streets were narrower.


By CHARLES DELAFUENTE
Published: November 28, 2008

In the heart of Midtown, a yearlong project to build a new subway entrance provides a nightly feast for sidewalk superintendents and urban archaeologists.


Richard Perry/The New York Times
Work continues by day. “You end up with a maze of things that you have to maneuver through,” a construction official said.


During the day, at least on weekdays, much of the underground work at Eighth Avenue and 42nd Street is hidden by steel plates weighing more than two tons each.

They are removed about 10 p.m., when there is less traffic, exposing a cornucopia of dirt-encrusted pipes and ducts, the very arteries and veins of the city. And the surgeons in hard hats have to move the biggest of them — the aorta, if you will — without nicking the others.

The new entrance, on the southeast corner of the intersection, is part of 11 Times Square, an office building owned by SJP Properties, going up from 41st to 42nd Street. Part of the project is moving utilities, said Matthew DiGiorgi, senior project manager of the builder, Plaza Construction. “First and foremost was relocating a 48-inch-diameter sewer main,” he said.

Plaza, a major New York construction company, is not normally in the sewer-pipe business. It is in charge of this work because creating the subway entrance was part of the deal on the property, Mr. DiGiorgi said.

On its face, the task “doesn’t appear to be that complex,” said Richard Wood, Plaza’s president, but it is always complicated to make changes under “a street that’s accumulated 100 years of infrastructure at different times, and not very properly documented.” He added: “You end up with a maze of things that you have to maneuver through.”

The work — which Mr. DiGiorgi said included digging pits as deep as 23 feet to lay the new pipe, 40 feet south of the old one — has attracted a lot of gapers at one of Manhattan’s busiest intersections.

It has also yielded a few surprises.

One of them involved the buildings that once stood on the site. They were built about a century ago and had basement vaults, extending to the curb line, that were used for storing coal. The vaults do not appear on underground maps, the way utility lines do.

When the old buildings were demolished years ago and the land was turned into a parking lot, there was no need to remove the subterranean vaults, which were not in anyone’s way. Now they are.

Giving an underground tour one recent cold night, Martin Giroux, Plaza’s project manager at the site, pointed out another complication. At the time the old buildings were built, the sidewalk on 42nd Street was wider and the streets were narrower. With the current narrower sidewalks, the vaults now lie not just under them but under the roadway. To brace the steel plates over 42nd Street, workers installed a 21-inch-thick beam.

It is possible, even during the day, to see the remains of the brick-and-concrete arches of the old vaults, and part of the 120-foot-long new pipe, from the part of the excavation that is left uncovered: a pit behind a fence near a temporary covered pedestrian walkway.

They are much more visible, as Mr. Giroux pointed out, from the unfinished subbasement of 11 Times Square.

The vaults had to be drilled out and removed largely by hand, because of the tangle of lines for telephone, electricity, water and fiber-optic connections — not to mention steam pipes — running under the street at varying depths. If workers had put a backhoe in there instead of working by hand, and “hit one of those lines, it’s a catastrophe,” Mr. Giroux said.

As sections of the old pipe were unearthed, they revealed the site’s history. The pipe appears to have been changed somewhat in the 1960s, Mr. Giroux said, but he estimated that its old base dates to the 1860s or 1870s.

Mr. Giroux marveled at the cooperation the project had engendered. A transplanted Midwesterner, he said that he had heard horror stories about trying to work with transit officials and workers, but that he had not encountered any.

Work on the new subway entrance started in May and was expected to be completed in a year.

When the new pipe is done, it will be covered with sand and concrete and the street will be filled in and paved. . The scars will heal, and the city will have another skyscraper with a convenient subway connection.

Asked what other projects of his had changed the city’s skyline, Mr. Wood diplomatically said that “every building is important to us.” But then he cited Riverhouse, at Battery Park City; 147 Flatbush Avenue Extension in Downtown Brooklyn (“a beautiful building”); and the “very visible” Random House building at Broadway and 56th Street. His clear implication was that 11 Times Square, with its escalators from the lobby to the subway below, would rank with them.


Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
__________________
"I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps"
     
     
  #50  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2008, 8:31 AM
NYC2ATX's Avatar
NYC2ATX NYC2ATX is offline
Everywhere all at once
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SI NYC
Posts: 2,448
kewl.
__________________
BUILD IT. BUILD EVERYTHING. BUILD IT ALL.
     
     
  #51  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2008, 3:27 PM
yarabundi's Avatar
yarabundi yarabundi is offline
Homo Platoregimontis
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Montréal
Posts: 3,320
Indeed !! "Fascinating" -to quote Spock !!
__________________
"Je suis contre les femmes...tout contre !!"
Sacha Guitry

Come to see our SC4 cities at http://www.toutsimcity.com/forums/af....php?forum=vil
or here : http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=117089

Last edited by yarabundi; Dec 3, 2008 at 3:43 PM.
     
     
  #52  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2008, 6:42 PM
photoLith's Avatar
photoLith photoLith is offline
Ex Houstonian
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pittsburgh n’ at
Posts: 15,476
I cant believe a 600 ft tower only has 3 pages of comments. If this tower were in almost any other city it would have probably 100 pages of comments. It just goes to show that NYC is on a completely different level from others.
__________________
There’s no greater abomination to mankind and nature than Ryan Home developments.
     
     
  #53  
Old Posted Dec 3, 2008, 10:58 PM
Antares41's Avatar
Antares41 Antares41 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bflo/Pgh/Msn/NYC
Posts: 2,145
Quote:
Originally Posted by photolitherland View Post
I cant believe a 600 ft tower only has 3 pages of comments. If this tower were in almost any other city it would have probably 100 pages of comments. It just goes to show that NYC is on a completely different level from others.

You also got to take in consideration that there are a lot of skyscrapers under construction in NYC, even with the slow economy. So all us NYC fans get spread very thinly across the various threads.

You also be surprise that there are some skyscrapers under construction in NYC without a thread in this forum. Case in point the 40 story skyscraper being built at the old Red Cross site near Lincoln Center, nice skyscraper, nice facade going-up. Just impossible to keep-up.
     
     
  #54  
Old Posted Dec 4, 2008, 2:50 AM
antinimby antinimby is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In syndication
Posts: 2,098
That is the not the true reason. This and many of the threads covering those projects were recently deleted. New ones had to be re-started and that's why there's not as many posts.
     
     
  #55  
Old Posted Dec 5, 2008, 4:27 AM
Antares41's Avatar
Antares41 Antares41 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bflo/Pgh/Msn/NYC
Posts: 2,145
Quote:
Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
That is the not the true reason. This and many of the threads covering those projects were recently deleted. New ones had to be re-started and that's why there's not as many posts.
Yes! that is correct 11 Times Sq. is among those that had to be resurrected.
     
     
  #56  
Old Posted Dec 7, 2008, 3:32 AM
NYC4Life's Avatar
NYC4Life NYC4Life is offline
The Time To Build Is Now
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC
Posts: 3,004
This tower topped out faster than most buildings of shorter height.
__________________
"I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps"
     
     
  #57  
Old Posted Dec 8, 2008, 12:54 AM
Thefigman's Avatar
Thefigman Thefigman is offline
Not far from Disneyland
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posts: 351
Here's a shot of 11 Times Square I took from the Top of the Rock on Saturday.

Taken by Thefigman
     
     
  #58  
Old Posted Dec 8, 2008, 1:06 AM
Thefigman's Avatar
Thefigman Thefigman is offline
Not far from Disneyland
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Posts: 351
And it''s starting to creep into the picture with NYT.

Taken by Thefigman

     
     
  #59  
Old Posted Dec 9, 2008, 5:13 PM
antinimby antinimby is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In syndication
Posts: 2,098
Thanks for those Thefigman.

IMO, this tower is at least 10 floors too short (not that the developer could do anything about it, it's because of the zoning).
     
     
  #60  
Old Posted Dec 10, 2008, 12:29 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 51,747
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12102008...34.htm?&page=0



December 10, 2008

We've finally tracked down some actual tenant action at the still under construction 11 Times Square.

Sources tell us the building on the southeast corner of West 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue, which is vying for a Gold LEED efficiency rating, was one of those considered by WestLB prior to it signing with Larry Silverstein's 7 WTC for the cheaper rent.

Other tenants that have combed the SJP Properties' concrete halls include Mizhuo, which has a request for 250,000 to 300,000 foot proposals out around town with CB Richard Ellis's Robert Flippin.

Sources said the National Basketball Association, whose ongoing headquarters search is being led by Barry Gosin of Newmark Knight Frank, was bouncing around as recently as September, and even had some architectural game plans made.

Gosin said they are considering all their options and that they haven't looked at 11 Times Square in "a year or two."

The NBA is now at 645 Fifth Ave., and has been looking everywhere for new space, including at one point eyeing possible new Brookfield towers along Ninth Avenue near Madison Square Garden.

Steve Siegel, the Global chairman of CB Richard Ellis who is in charge of leasing 11 Times Square, said he was meeting yesterday with a "potential 200,000 foot tenant" for the third time.

"At this moment in time we are in no rush [to lease]," Siegel said. "We have a year before it's completed and several years of carry built into the pro forma. While people will pay a premium, whether it's $20, $30 or $10 a foot we don't know yet."

So far, he's holding rents at $100 a foot but admitted some wiggle room for 200,000 foot lower floor tenants.
__________________
NEW YORK is Back!

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
 

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:48 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.