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Yes, the renders sbarn posted do appear to be on the west side of 8th ave, on the green parcel. 740 8th ave is on the red parcel.

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It's probably going to be another 500-700 foot box, judging from the sq ft it's going to have (1 msf).
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I spent the weekend in NYC and stayed at the Milford Plaza. Here is a good photo I took of the sites you guys are talking about.

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Hope this is the right thread.

West 46th Street Tower Revived As 29-Story Hotel
Wednesday, May 8, 2013, by Jessica Dailey



"... Scaffolding has risen around the empty building, and DOB filings confirm the structure is not long for this world. Demolition permits were issued at the end of February...


But we won't be seeing the 38-story condo-hotel tower that was previously planned for the site. DOB documents show that the building has been chopped to 29 stories and it lost the 35 condo units, as well as more than half of the 375 hotel rooms. New filings show there will be just 146 rooms, and floors three through five will be occupied by an atrium. The ground floor and cellar level will have retail..."

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Extell will take over...
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/18...son-yards.html


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Mr. Barnett had stymied Related’s plan to build an office tower at the Eighth Avenue property. He leads a group that owns an adjoining parcel, where they could now build an even larger tower.
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My guess is that Extell will build a large hotel/residential development.














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I'm willing to bet that Extell is planning something very tall here. Would not be surprised if another supertall.

Gary Barnett now has 1.2 million square feet of developable space on this site, and his main focus is mixed use hotel/condo projects. I see a tall, skinny tower, with hotel at base, and high-priced condo units at the top.

And wow, you could basically go as tall as you want here. 1.2 million square feet can deliver some serious, cloud-scraping height if going residential instead of office.
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Besides the parking lot, what other lot(s) are part of his plot? I hope it's not those vibrant walkups.
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Looks like five roach nests to me. Tear them down. Worship glass.
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Besides the parking lot, what other lot(s) are part of his plot? I hope it's not those vibrant walkups.
I'm pretty sure they were a part of the original plan. ACRIS lists RBP (i.e., Related-Boston Properties) 45th Street LLC as owner of at least one of the rowhouses (Block 1017, Lot 1). But each lot seems to be listed under its own obscure shell company. That's standard practice when a company is silently buying up a block.

There were another 5 walkups on the northern part of the block. The cavemen at Boston Properties tore them down before having solid plans for the site and left the corner looking like Detroit. I got attacked at around 10pm by a mob on that now-desolate but formerly active corner a couple of years ago after the demolition.

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It doesn't look like those tenement buildings are going to go. Look at the far right of the picture.

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^^ That's Glenwood Management's plan for 301 W 46th, which is catty-corner from the Extell site.

It would be a separate project.

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It doesn't look like those tenement buildings are going to go. Look at the far right of the picture.

That's the opposite side of 8th. Besides Worldwide Plaza giving it away, and the address, the small buildings can be seen in this photo. (the rendering was before the "sliver" went up)

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I see a tall, skinny tower, with hotel at base, and high-priced condo units at the top.
Yeah, residential and hotels are the hottest things going in the city right now. This site would be perfect for both. I expect a mixed-use residential/hotel tower that will be taller than anything
in the area.
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Last month, it was revealed Related was trying to swap Extell’s Gary Barnett a site it owns with Boston Properties on Eighth Avenue and West 45th Street that we told you it was selling through Mark Weiss of Newmark Grubb Knight Frank.

This is next to a garage controlled by Barnett. In return, Related wanted Barnett’s 1 Hudson Yards site at 34th Street and Eleventh Avenue so it could move forward with its giant towers and retail podium.

Now we’ve learned the deal is actually in contract, with Related throwing in the Times Square site and adding cash to sweeten the pot to gain the 1 Hudson site from Barnett.
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This tower could become quite substantial then...
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...guURJe6DBGrg5N

‘Comet’ on tail of Ross deal

By LOIS WEISS
September 3, 2013


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Rival developers Gary Barnett of Extell Development and Related Cos.’s Steven Ross have completed their swap of development sites, clearing the way for a great comet to descend on Times Square.

In May, we reported that Related, along with partner Boston Properties, had hired Newmark Grubb Knight Frank’s Mark Weiss to sell a Times Square site at the northeast corner of West 45th Street and Eighth Avenue that was located next to an Extell-owned garage that was also being prepped for development.

Since Barnett was becoming a thorn in Ross’s side by rebranding his West 34th Street and 11th Avenue site as One Hudson Yards — undercutting proposed rents at Related and partner Oxford Properties’ Hudson Yards towers — the parties soon came to an amicable agreement. We’ve now learned the deal quietly closed at the end of July.

With the lots about to be in hand, Extell was approached by Anita Grossberg of the Sroka Worldwide Team at Douglas Elliman, whose client has now leased the vacant portion for “Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812.”

The dinner theater cabaret show, produced by Howard and Janet Kagen, has been in a temporary location in the Meatpacking District at Washington and West 13th Street but is being booted for the development of another project. Grossberg says the show will open Sept. 24 at 259-267 W. 45th Street and run at least through the beginning of January with the possibility of extensions.
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Yes, the renders sbarn posted do appear to be on the west side of 8th ave, on the green parcel. 740 8th ave is on the red parcel.

it's a shame to lose those walk-ups, but the extell garage on 45th st (north of the red-shaded zone on the right side) adds a major slice, increasing the size by 20%. wonder if we'll see a major commercial component come in here - i mean, you've three sides of high traffic street frontage here, it'd be mad not to try to integrate some restaurant row/theatre district commercial at the street levels.
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it's a shame to lose those walk-ups, but the extell garage on 45th st (north of the red-shaded zone on the right side) adds a major slice, increasing the size by 20%. wonder if we'll see a major commercial component come in here - i mean, you've three sides of high traffic street frontage here, it'd be mad not to try to integrate some restaurant row/theatre district commercial at the street levels.
I suspect there will be a large hotel component.
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http://nypost.com/2013/12/09/theater...ve-profitable/

Theater Subdistrict zoning continues to prove profitable




Broadhurst and Majestic Theatres’ air rights will be transferred to the Roseland Ballroom site for a residential tower.


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December 9, 2013

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The Theater Subdistrict zoning that provides for air rights transfers within an area around Broadway has enabled prominent theaters to be preserved while providing funds for other theater-related uses.

The 15-year-old zoning plan allows landmarked Broadway theaters to sell and transfer air rights within the district, and not just on the same block or across the street as with regular zoning. The subdistrict is generally encompassed by West 40th and West 57th Streets between Sixth and Eighth Avenues.


In addition to sustaining the theaters through the income from the sale of their transferable air rights, commitments can be made to use portions of the new buildings for legitimate theater purposes; there’s also a specific contribution per transferable foot that is deposited into the Theater Subdistrict Fund.

So far 473,546 square feet of transferable development rights (TDRs), commonly called air rights, have been sold and generated a contribution of $6,421,880 to the fund for an average of $13.56 per TDR.

.....Gary Barnett’s Extell Development has taken over a project that was being assembled by Boston Properties and the Related Companies at 750 Eighth Ave. that was to include an office building over a 406-space garage. In this case, the Boston/Related team had already agreed to purchase TDRs from the Shubert Organization’s Broadhurst Theatre, and was also buying the small building at the northeast corner of 45th Street housing the Frankie & Johnnie’s Steakhouse, which the Shuberts also own. Additionally, the developers had planned to purchase 120,319 square feet of TDRs from the Jacobs, Booth and Broadhurst theaters.

In order to complete the project, Barnett is likely now renegotiating the purchase of these TDRs and the finished development could also be changed from an office tower to become a hotel or residential condos.
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As expected - rentals at 52nd and condos with Gary.

Off topic but what is the name of that stumpy building behind this theater? It looks very nice from this view but the front is a totally different story.
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