Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Fun stuff.


https://ottawasun.com/news/local-new...9-d84233c35379

This is after all what testing and training is for.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Thanks for those. Looking pretty good.

Quite disappointed with the lanterns though. The plastic looks cheap (I feel it will break easily from the cold), the lighting is terrible, stark white, very cold. I know it's LED, but it looks like fluorescents. You can also see inside the lantern through the corners. I noticed this while driving past uOttawa yesterday.

The plastic is just a diffuser so the lattern light is spread out more, the main panel that goes over is glass. I do agree they should have gone with warm white LEDs though.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

The plastic is just a diffuser so the lattern light is spread out more, the main panel that goes over is glass. I do agree they should have gone with warm white LEDs though.

Ah, that makes sense. I though they stuck the decals straight on the plastic, but those go on the glass panels that come later.

[J.OT13]

Confederation Line Update week of December 3, 2018.

Multiple trains are running a closed loop between Blair and Tunney’s Pasture Station in full automatic mode. The western stations progress with final fare gate adjustments. Smoke and pressure tests for the tunnel ventilation system (TVS) have happened. Duct work for O-Pylon installation occurs at Rideau Station.


Tunney's

West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station
Crews have installed the decorative wood perimeter fencing on both the Scott Street and the bus loop sides of the station. Final mechanical and electrical finishing works continue.

Bayview Station
The fencing along the edge of the south east entrance plaza, above the Multi-Use Pathway (MUP) is installed. Miscellaneous mechanical and electrical finishes continue. The station’s O-Pylons have been installed.

Pimisi Station
Installation of the remaining glass at stairways, completion of the elevator shrouds, and final adjustments to the fare gates is underway. Miscellaneous mechanical and electrical finishing activities continue.


Bayview

Central Stations

Lyon Station
Testing and commissioning activities are ongoing. Miscellaneous finishing works and final touch-ups are underway. The public art at the concourse will be installed in the coming weeks.

Parliament Station
Final finishes such as tiling and handrail installations progress. The ceiling continues to be installed. Glass installations for the elevators, escalators and stairs at the concourse occur. Installation of the art inter-track barrier is underway. Testing and commissioning activities are ongoing.


Lyon Concourse Level

Rideau Station
Digital signband lighting and inter-car barriers are installed at the platform. The installation of utility cabinets and remaining ceiling panels advances. Door signs, fare vending machines, stairway glazing, and handrail installations all continue throughout the station.

uOttawa Station
Miscellaneous finishing works are underway as testing and commissioning activities continue.


Rideau Concourse Elevators to Mall

East Stations

Stations along the eastern alignment including Lees, Hurdman, Tremblay, St-Laurent, Cyrville and Blair Station, are undergoing miscellaneous finishing work as testing and commissioning activities continue.


Hurdman

Guideway and Testing

New vehicles are being tested and introduced into the fleet. Multiple trains are running a closed loop between Blair and Tunney’s Pasture Station in full automatic mode.


LRV at Parliament Station

Upcoming Construction Activities
In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

• Integrated entrance completion at Lyon, Parliament, and Rideau Stations
• Installation of public art at Tremblay Station
• Architectural finishes at the western stations

https://www.ligneconfederationline.c...on-update-203/

[eltodesukane]

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[McC]

Happy Groundhog Day!

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by eltodesukane

Photos much too small.

Pictures are bigger on the website (click on them). Not sure why they post so small on here, or how to fix it.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

And yet the lower frequency is the biggest complaint about that line. There's a good argument to be made that investing in higher order transit that can't support headways lower than 10 mins is a waste.

I suppose you could say that the Trillium Line was very lucky in the sense that an old freight line ran right through a university, but was ultimately shafted due to the single track nature of the line leaving multiple grade separations, a bridge, and a tunnel left to require widening should service ever need to be increased (as we can now see).

But that isn't true of all corridors left in the city. Take the Beachburg Sub for example as discussed in other threads. If this type of service was ever introduced along there it would be significantly easier to incrementally increase service without requiring significant capital each time since all of the infrastructure for full double track is literally already there. (Which is kind of funny to think about since throughout its history, the line was never actually doubled but all of the overpasses were built to accommodate it...) There wouldn't be the same limitation of needing to try and squeeze every ounce of functionality out of that line while trying to avoid the inevitable hundreds of millions of dollars required to upgrade the surrounding infrastructure to do so.

It's just a thought anyway.

[Hybrid247]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Confederation Line Update week of December 3, 2018.

Multiple trains are running a closed loop between Blair and Tunney’s Pasture Station in full automatic mode. The western stations progress with final fare gate adjustments. Smoke and pressure tests for the tunnel ventilation system (TVS) have happened. Duct work for O-Pylon installation occurs at Rideau Station.


Tunney's

West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station
Crews have installed the decorative wood perimeter fencing on both the Scott Street and the bus loop sides of the station. Final mechanical and electrical finishing works continue.

Bayview Station
The fencing along the edge of the south east entrance plaza, above the Multi-Use Pathway (MUP) is installed. Miscellaneous mechanical and electrical finishes continue. The station’s O-Pylons have been installed.

Pimisi Station
Installation of the remaining glass at stairways, completion of the elevator shrouds, and final adjustments to the fare gates is underway. Miscellaneous mechanical and electrical finishing activities continue.


Bayview

Central Stations

Lyon Station
Testing and commissioning activities are ongoing. Miscellaneous finishing works and final touch-ups are underway. The public art at the concourse will be installed in the coming weeks.

Parliament Station
Final finishes such as tiling and handrail installations progress. The ceiling continues to be installed. Glass installations for the elevators, escalators and stairs at the concourse occur. Installation of the art inter-track barrier is underway. Testing and commissioning activities are ongoing.


Lyon Concourse Level

Rideau Station
Digital signband lighting and inter-car barriers are installed at the platform. The installation of utility cabinets and remaining ceiling panels advances. Door signs, fare vending machines, stairway glazing, and handrail installations all continue throughout the station.

uOttawa Station
Miscellaneous finishing works are underway as testing and commissioning activities continue.


Rideau Concourse Elevators to Mall

East Stations

Stations along the eastern alignment including Lees, Hurdman, Tremblay, St-Laurent, Cyrville and Blair Station, are undergoing miscellaneous finishing work as testing and commissioning activities continue.


Hurdman

Guideway and Testing

New vehicles are being tested and introduced into the fleet. Multiple trains are running a closed loop between Blair and Tunney’s Pasture Station in full automatic mode.


LRV at Parliament Station

Upcoming Construction Activities
In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

• Integrated entrance completion at Lyon, Parliament, and Rideau Stations
• Installation of public art at Tremblay Station
• Architectural finishes at the western stations

https://www.ligneconfederationline.c...on-update-203/

Here are the larger versions of the pics. Thanks for posting the update J.OT13

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

The Transitway was also an order of magnitude cheaper to build, especially outside those sections without a ton of grade separation. Rail, especially as we're building it in Ottawa, will never be that cheap.

Had an out-of-towner express incredulity last week at the size of some of the Confed. line stations.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Had an out-of-towner express incredulity last week at the size of some of the Confed. line stations.

Meh. Those out-of-towners are clueless. These stations are just fine for a light metro.

The problem is that people get confused and think this is LRT. So they wonder why a tram station is so big. Would they say the same thing if you told them it was a subway/metro station?

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by Richard Eade

I think what you might be seeing in Little Italy is the effect of the U-pass more than the effect of the O-Train – Confederation Line (L1).

In the ‘olden days’, Carleton students would take their back-packs and walk, or bus (if they could afford it), over to Billing Bridge shopping centre. With the introduction of the U-Pass, students now had unlimited access to the O-Train – Trillium Line (L2). This means that their shopping options have opened up. It now takes less time to take L2 to Greenboro than to walk to Billings Bridge. Or, about the same time that it takes to bus to Billings Bridge. A portion of students now uses Greenboro as their go-to shopping area.

The same can be said for housing. Before there was a U-pass, many students would live within walking distance of the university. Now that they have unlimited access to L2, the Carling Station is only a few minutes away from the campus. This makes it a good area for developers to plan towers. It also had (relatively) cheap land and the City was willing to allow higher density.

Unlimited access to L2 has changed the behaviours of Carleton students. L2 allows for easy travel between the university and different shopping and residences areas. Really, the only thing missing now along that line is a giant Liquor Land outlet.

From you description, L2 is half of the equation. The other half is the U-Pass. Without it, the students who couldn't afford the bus would still be hoofing it over to Billing Bridge and the need to buy a bus pass would change the economics of living outside of walking distance from the university.

I agree that when combined with the U-Pass, L2 really does open up options north and west of the Canal for Carleton Students which otherwise would be awkward to get to.

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

I suppose you could say that the Trillium Line was very lucky in the sense that an old freight line ran right through a university,

Very true! I have always said that without Carleton, the Trillium Line would have been a massive failure and we probably wouldn't be building the Confederation Line. Rail transit only works if it takes to or from people where they want to go.

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

but was ultimately shafted due to the single track nature of the line leaving multiple grade separations, a bridge, and a tunnel left to require widening should service ever need to be increased (as we can now see).

That is why I think when the time comes, we should put the money that we would have needed to spend double tracking the Trillium Line towards building an alternate route downtown. As a "Carleton Line," L2 will have plenty of capacity after Stage 2 for the next century, IF everyone going downtown is diverted to another route. That diversion won't be necessary for the next 30ish years though.

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

But that isn't true of all corridors left in the city. Take the Beachburg Sub for example as discussed in other threads. If this type of service was ever introduced along there it would be significantly easier to incrementally increase service without requiring significant capital each time since all of the infrastructure for full double track is literally already there. (Which is kind of funny to think about since throughout its history, the line was never actually doubled but all of the overpasses were built to accommodate it...) There wouldn't be the same limitation of needing to try and squeeze every ounce of functionality out of that line while trying to avoid the inevitable hundreds of millions of dollars required to upgrade the surrounding infrastructure to do so.

That is true between Federal and Nepean Junction. East of Federal, almost all of the infrastructure is only designed for single track. The irony there is that is the part that is used by VIA Rail and thus would be most congested (though maybe VIA will pay to upgrade it one day). East of Nepean Junction, the bridge over Carling only supports single track and everything else is at grade (same with the Renfrew sub).

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Had an out-of-towner express incredulity last week at the size of some of the Confed. line stations.

What did he/she say about the ocean of buses clogging downtown?

[bikegypsy]

A video of Confed being tested in coupled mode from @alexbcarr on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/alexbcarr/status...61677041541120

[Truenorth00]

I am disappointed at their pace. They are not going to be done construction before Christmas by the looks of it. Occupancy permits for the last stations will probably be end Jan.

[CityTech]

It really looks like they're down to a few weeks of finishings and that's it, and with only 2 workweeks left before the holidays, my guess would be a handover in late Jan, for an opening around Family Day weekend.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

What did he/she say about the ocean of buses clogging downtown?

Probably not much, because they don't live here and don't understand our transit issues or care about them.

The stations being "too big" is a typically ridiculous Ottawa complaint, from people who still think this city is a large town and don't realize it's a metro with more than a million people.

Outside the core, most of these stations are going to become major transfer nodes with lots of feeder buses. They need to be big. And we have four downtown stations which will essentially have to disburse probably close to 10 000 pedestrians an hour during rush.

"Too big" - Pure ignorance. It's understandable when out-of-towners engage in that nonsense cause they haven't seen the growth of Ottawa. What's strange is locals who countenance those views.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by CityTech

It really looks like they're down to a few weeks of finishings and that's it, and with only 2 workweeks left before the holidays, my guess would be a handover in late Jan, for an opening around Family Day weekend.

I have my doubts they'll get all the finishings done within 2 weeks. We're talking about them still pouring concrete in some places. And they really have to be mostly done before they can get to that minor deficiencies list. I think it's pushing it for them to have occupancy permits for all the stations by the end of January.

There's also all the operational testing that has to happen.

Family Day is possible. But it is tight.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I have my doubts they'll get all the finishings done within 2 weeks. We're talking about them still pouring concrete in some places. And they really have to be mostly done before they can get to that minor deficiencies list. I think it's pushing it for them to have occupancy permits for all the stations by the end of January.

There's also all the operational testing that has to happen.

Family Day is possible. But it is tight.

The operational testing has been going already, there's very little to be done. You're remote you said TrueNorth, so you might not know those pictures they post on website aren't necessarily from the week of the update. The only thing left seems to be finishing the lanterns

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

The operational testing has been going already, there's very little to be done. You're remote you said TrueNorth, so you might not know those pictures they post on website aren't necessarily from the week of the update. The only thing left seems to be finishing the lanterns

and covering up all that green

(from today)