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Old Posted Dec 29, 2013, 7:31 PM
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Here's the second edition of the CIA thread.

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Old Posted Dec 29, 2013, 7:36 PM
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I kept a flight log of WestJet's Disney plane from December to the end of March, the first four months after it was repainted in November. It also includes pictures and video, check it out below...


Air-to-air footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQpJEIwLAVE

= Arrived later than ~3 am the next day
= Diversion
= 12+ hours standby, or mx at Calgary/Windsor

12/3 YYC 1414 MCO 1415 YYC
12/4 YYC 8980 (Photoshoot) YYC 463 YYJ 153 YYC 648 YYZ
12/5 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC
12/6 YYC 1564 SAN 1565 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
12/7 YYC 1510 LAX 1515 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
12/8 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ
12/9 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC
12/10 YYC 1414 MCO 1415 YYC
12/11 YYC 1460 LAS 1331 YQR 1934 LAS 1585 YYC
12/12 YYC 1414 MCO 1415 YYC 652 YYZ
12/13 YYZ 427 YEG 2204 PVR 2205 YEG
12/14 YEG 1532 PHX 1463 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC
12/15 YYC 1564 SAN 1565 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
12/16 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 2772 POS
12/17 POS 2773 YYZ 2710 BDA 2711 YYZ 445 YEG
12/18 YEG 428 YYZ 713 YVR 720 YYZ
12/19 YYZ 2702 MBJ 2703 YYZ 1166 MCO
12/20 MCO 1169 YYZ 1140 MIA 1141 YYZ 2582 CUN 2583 YYZ
12/21 YYZ 2668 PLS 2669 YYZ 2582 CUN 2583 YYZ
12/22 YYZ 2766 PUJ 2767 YYZ 675 YYC
12/23 YYC 658 YYZ 2660 MBJ 2661 YYZ
12/24 YYZ 427 YEG 2206 CUN 2207 YEG
12/25 YEG 428 YYZ 713 YVR 720 YYZ
12/26 YYZ 427 YEG 2206 CUN 2207 YEG
12/27 YEG 1532 PHX 1325 YXE 1924 PHX 1413 YEG
12/28 YEG 428 YYZ 713 YVR 720 YYZ
12/29 YYZ 653 YYC 1468 PSP 1469 YYC 1400 LAS 1401 YYC
12/30 YYC 2290 SJD 2291 YYC 652 YYZ
12/31 YYZ 2506 POP 2507 YYZ 445 YEG

1/1 YEG 428 YYZ 2668 PLS 2669 YYZ
1/2 YYZ 2610 VRA 2611 YYZ 671 YYC
1/3 YYC 1564 SAN 1565 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
1/4 YYC 1460 LAS 1331 YQR 1934 LAS 1487 YEG
1/5 YEG 1484 PSP 1485 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC 648 YYZ
1/6 YYZ 2742 LIR 2743 YYZ
1/7 YYZ 445 YEG 426 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC
1/8 YYC 1402 PHX 1403 YYC 1494 PHX 1495 YYC
1/9 YYC 656 YYZ 475 YWG 475 YYC 1494 PHX 1495 YYC
1/10 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
1/11 YYC 1510 LAX 1515 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
1/12 YYC 2290 SJD 2291 YYC 463 YYJ 154 YYC
1/13 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
1/14 YYC 2288 SJD 2289 YYC 1494 PHX 1495 YYC
1/15 YYC 1460 LAS 1331 YQR 1934 LAS 1585 YYC
1/16 YYC 1414 MCO 1415 YYC
1/17 YYC 2382 ZIH YYC 556 YKF 557 YYC
1/18 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
1/19 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ
1/20 YYZ 2632 KIN 2633 YYZ 671 YYC
1/21 Mx YYC
1/22 YYC 2382 ZIH 2383 YYC 652 YYZ
1/23 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC 665 YQQ (fog) YYJ 8979 YYC
1/24 YYC 2382 ZIH 2383 YYC 212 YQR
1/25 YQR 313 YYC 1564 SAN 1565 YYC 1494 PHX 1495 YYC
1/26 YYC 1460 LAS 1709 YYJ 1908 LAS 1487 YEG
1/27 YEG 1532 PHX 1325 YXE 1924 PHX 1413 YEG
1/28 YEG 428 YYZ 713 YVR 720 YYZ
1/29 YYZ 2504 CCC 2505 YYZ 671 YYC 648 YYZ
1/30 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC 463 YYJ 154 YYC
1/31 YYC 2382 ZIH 2383 YYC

2/1 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 8955 YQG ALB 8956 YYZ
2/2 YYZ 8965 YQG
2/3 Base mx YQG
2/4 Base mx YQG
2/5 Base mx YQG
2/6 Base mx YQG
2/7 Base mx YQG
2/8 Base mx YQG
2/9 Base mx YQG
2/10 YQG 8956 YYZ
2/11 YYZ 653 YYC 1468 PSP 1469 YYC 1400 LAS 1401 YYC
2/12 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
2/13 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
2/14 YYC 1564 SAN 1565 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
2/15 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ
2/16 YYZ 427 YEG 2206 CUN 2207 YEG
2/17 YEG 1532 PHX 1325 YXE 1924 PHX 1413 YEG
2/18 YEG 238 YYC 253 YLW 512 YYZ 613 YLW
2/19 YLW 224 YEG 1448 LAS 1449 YEG 1488 LAS 1489 YEG
2/20 YEG 1532 PHX 1463 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC
2/21 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
2/22 YYC 1460 LAS 1331 YQR 1934 LAS 1487 YEG
2/23 YEG 1484 PSP 1485 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC
2/24 YYC 1460 LAS 1331 YQR 1934 LAS 1487 YEG
2/25 YEG 1484 PSP 1485 YEG 1464 PHX 1413 YEG
2/26 YEG 428 YYZ 713 YVR 1864 HNL 1865 YVR
2/27 YVR 2060 SJD 2061 YVR
2/28 YVR 320 YEG 177 YVR 1864 HNL 1865 YVR

3/1 YVR 1862 HNL 1863 YVR
3/2 YVR 1770 PHX 1771 YVR 1852 OGG 1853 YVR
3/3 YVR 2056 CUN 2057 YVR
3/4 YVR 1696 LAX 1697 YVR 1698 LAX 1699 YVR
3/5 YVR 320 YEG 177 YVR 720 YYZ
3/6 YYZ 2506 POP 2507 YYZ 675 YYC
3/7 YYC 2272 ZLO 2273 YYC 652 YYZ
3/8 YYZ 2668 PLS 2669 YYZ 675 YYC
3/9 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ
3/10 YYZ 653 YYC 1468 PSP 1469 YYC 1400 LAS 1401 YYC
3/11 YYC 1624 LAS 1461 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
3/12 YYC 1402 PHX 1403 YYC 676 YYZ
3/13 YYZ 2580 CUN 2311 YYC 463 YYJ 154 YYC
3/14 YYC 2310 CUN 2581 YYZ 675 YYC
3/15 YYC 2382 ZIH 2383 YYC 652 YYZ
3/16 YYZ 2766 PUJ 2767 YYZ 445 YEG 426 YYZ
3/17 YYZ 2766 PUJ 2767 YYZ 445 YEG 426 YYZ
3/18 YYZ 2766 PUJ 2767 YYZ 1118 LAS 1119 YYZ
3/19 YYZ 2702 MBJ 2703 YYZ 675 YYC
3/20 YYC 1460 LAS 1709 YYJ 1908 LAS 1487 YEG
3/21 YEG 1532 PHX 1325 YXE 1924 PHX 1413 YEG
3/22 YEG 1532 PHX 1463 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC
3/23 YYC 2272 ZLO 2273 YYC 648 YYZ
3/24 YYZ 2624 HOG 2625 YYZ 671 YYC 648 YYZ
3/25 YYZ 2506 POP 2507 YYZ 445 YEG 426 YYZ
3/26 YYZ 2766 PUJ 2767 YYZ 1118 LAS 1119 YYZ
3/27 YYZ 2610 VRA 2611 YYZ 4224 YYT 4220 YHZ 8978 YYT
3/28 YYT 4259 YHZ 4247 YYZ 2702 MBJ 2703 YYZ 675 YYC
3/29 YYC 1510 LAX 1515 YYC 1470 PSP 1473 YYC
3/30 YYC 1460 LAS 1709 YYJ 1908 LAS 1487 YEG
3/31 YEG 1484 PSP 1485 YEG 1486 LAS 1585 YYC

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Old Posted Dec 29, 2013, 11:50 PM
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What is up with the use of full air bridges for the Q400s? With the big fleets of them coming, could we end up with better facilities for them that don't require a 'canoe' to be set up?
The q400 was designed to be a bridged airplane, one of the many features requested by the airlines. AC bridges their q400s at 10-14 in yyc. WS has to set up gates 35-39 due to tight space on D concourse. Once IFP opens and until B/C concourse closes for extensive renovations, WS will be able to bridge their Q400s if they so chose at least at 31-34 and probably further up into the high 20s gates if required.

From a YEG perspective, WS could bridge their Q400s at the north terminal rather than gate 49.

Alternately WS could not bridge the Q400 at all and implement a sky check program for larger carryon items.

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Old Posted Dec 30, 2013, 12:10 AM
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Have we talked about potential equipment changes to our PHX and DFW services as a result of the merger?
Don't expect anything over the next 12 months. By 2015, AA will have pulled down enough MD80s that YYC will likely see the A319 or 738. I do not expect AA and US to crossfleet the hubs anytime soon. The one caveat is if there is an immediate need to get rid of the maddogs, then new US airbus narrowbodies could cross fleet at AA hubs.
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2013, 1:15 AM
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After the IFP opening: until they close it for renovations, the B/C pier is pretty much a free-for-all with both AC and WS ops?
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Found this old picture from probably ~1978 of WN's N26SW, later WS C-CWJU which was then donated to SAIT and sits in our hangar. We've done tons of work on this plane. Really cool finding this.


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Old Posted Dec 30, 2013, 3:48 AM
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After the IFP opening: until they close it for renovations, the B/C pier is pretty much a free-for-all with both AC and WS ops?
Once the IFP opens, AC has to find a spot for the express operations. wS had more than enough room with D concourse all to themselves.
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Hey Acey, according to ur prediction, we can expect a Mikey departure around midday 31st?
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Found this old picture from probably ~1978 of WN's N26SW, later WS C-CWJU which was then donated to SAIT and sits in our hangar. We've done tons of work on this plane. Really cool finding this.
Have they ever found all the electrical gremlins in her? I remember stories of her randomly shutting down on them when I went there. (AMET 2007)
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Hey Acey, according to ur prediction, we can expect a Mikey departure around midday 31st?
Just a guess. The 2nd week they had this plane they went out of their way to route it to MCO, and also did that on the 19th... but that theory has gone out the window as she's been locked into YEG and YYZ for a while. 09:55 departure tomorrow morning is possible, but right now it's not looking good based on gates.

It's pushing off 42 right now going to SJD (10:15 am)

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Have they ever found all the electrical gremlins in her? I remember stories of her randomly shutting down on them when I went there. (AMET 2007)
Still finding all kind of things on that plane. Mx guys wrecked one of the trailing edge flaps on the port wing last semester so it's permanently down and the line is capped. I didn't know it was a WN plane until yesterday. One of their first ones too.

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The new airport hotel is really coming along nicely!


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Jazz plane knocked over a truck this morning. I'm guessing, based on it being the only flight with a big delay this morning, that it was Jazz 395 to Kelowna.

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Cage, on OGG days (today) the 763 arriving from Hawaii at 6:30 am sits at YYC for 12+ hours before operating flight 850 to LHR. Why not send that 763 to YYZ as the 8 am flight which would free up one rotation for that A320? I assume it's because of crew scheduling or something because having a 763 sit here all day seems wasteful.
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Hey you guys would know this: The A330 to EDDF today was one with Star Alliance livery. I don't recall seeing an A330 with that paint here. What's up with that??
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It's here relatively often, AC's only got 8 A330's so when 850 and 844 are both 330's that's a 25% chance we see it. According to Flight Radar it's been stuck in a YVR-LHR-YYZ rut for a while, prior to today.

I don't remember seeing the Star Alliance 767 here, that tail might be one in the Caribbean config. I don't remember.
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Here's what my dad said happened on AC546 YYC-LAS on Thursday. It was overbooked; this is not news... but he is a frequent traveler and said it was the most irate sequence of PA's he's ever heard from an AC agent.

So the first announcement was relatively mild, she somewhat nicely asked if there was a single volunteer who would be willing to give up their seat. No one offered. Next PA added the amount of retribution: $800 in travel vouchers and overnight accommodation. Still no offers. On her third PA, she said the reason they needed the seat was because a crew member (didn't say FA or pilot) needed to get down to LAS to operate a YUL flight. The PA's were becoming increasingly hostile, and on her fourth PA she said, "if nobody volunteers, WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE because this crew member needs to get to Las Vegas and I am not cancelling the Montreal flight." No offers. In her final PA, she says the person who last booked the flight would be bumped and re-accommodated. Finally a lady offered, he's unsure if she had to because she was last on the list, or if she volunteered. The lady was told her tentative routing the following day would be YYC-DEN-SFO-LAS. Flight was late as a result of these shenanigans.
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I had a pretty rough one in Toronto when an A321 was substituted by an A319 and they had to bump 19 people.

It started out with asking for volunteers to connect via Vancouver and ended with threatening to breakup families or arriving at noon the next day via YYZ-YWG-YXE-YYC.
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Hey you guys would know this: The A330 to EDDF today was one with Star Alliance livery. I don't recall seeing an A330 with that paint here. What's up with that??
Nothing new, i flew it twice to FRA last Jan when it was stuck on the YYC outgoing loop. If i recall it returns to YUL from FRA and then returns to FRA from YUL before doing the YYC return. The YUL 330 does the return FRA to YYC flight. So when it is stuck in the loop it returns every other day. At least a few months ago it did.

So i guess one of the 787's will get the Star paint scheme done, especially when AC gets rid of the 330's. If i recall a certain percentage of the fleet needs to have the star paint scheme.
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Here's what my dad said happened on AC546 YYC-LAS on Thursday. It was overbooked; this is not news... but he is a frequent traveler and said it was the most irate sequence of PA's he's ever heard from an AC agent.

So the first announcement was relatively mild, she somewhat nicely asked if there was a single volunteer who would be willing to give up their seat. No one offered. Next PA added the amount of retribution: $800 in travel vouchers and overnight accommodation. Still no offers. On her third PA, she said the reason they needed the seat was because a crew member (didn't say FA or pilot) needed to get down to LAS to operate a YUL flight. The PA's were becoming increasingly hostile, and on her fourth PA she said, "if nobody volunteers, WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE because this crew member needs to get to Las Vegas and I am not cancelling the Montreal flight." No offers. In her final PA, she says the person who last booked the flight would be bumped and re-accommodated. Finally a lady offered, he's unsure if she had to because she was last on the list, or if she volunteered. The lady was told her tentative routing the following day would be YYC-DEN-SFO-LAS. Flight was late as a result of these shenanigans.
Yeesh! I wish that happened when I went to LAS at the beginning of December...I would have loved $800 in travel vouchers.
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Some photos from Christmas eve on the ramp:
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