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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 6:05 AM
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How's the Macleod bridge over 22X looking? Any signs of being done soon?
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 6:23 AM
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Nice Rocky Mountain vistas on the overpasses. I kept it down to close to 100, but I didn't see any police. I was wondering if Foothills Industrial traffic is going to see rush hour heading east instead of west? Now Glenmore E. needs a major upgrade.
I saw a woman on a cell phone get caught at Shawnessy and Macleod.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 6:30 AM
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I really love the colour of the walls, by far my favorite part of the project. Curious to see how long the paint ("sealer" or something I think it said in schedule 18?) lasts and how fast the repair process is when somebody hits the wall. I'll be legitimately annoyed if somebody hits the 114 Ave walls, they are gorgeous.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 1:48 PM
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We'll I'm going to finally check it out this morning. Have a meeting in crossfield, so I'm going to cut across Anderson/deer foot/114 and take it around the east side. Curious to see how busy it is
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 4:34 PM
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How's the Macleod bridge over 22X looking? Any signs of being done soon?
Still on temporary signal lights, but the widening is functional and in service.

I didn't notice if they installed permanent foundations for the new signals and haven't seen anyone on site for the two days that I have been back from Phoenix.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 4:54 PM
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Thanks. After 2 mornings now, I think there might be a tad less volume on Deerfoot at McKnight around 8 am. Can't say for sure yet.
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I know there is significantly more volume on Stoney in the mornings - especially noticable between 16th Ave and 17th Ave.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 5:29 PM
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Just curious if anybody knows if a different standard of street lighting was used on this portion of Stoney Trail?? Flying into Calgary at night, you can see that there is a huge amount of light pollution being generated from the street lights on the new section of Stoney. Compare this to the lights on Deerfoot Trail or the NW portion or Stoney which primarily cast their light down on the ground and you can really notice a difference. I know there was a big push by the City of Calgary a few years back to combat light pollution and switch to a different style of street light. Has this initiative gone by the way-side or is Stoney Trail an exception to the rule because it's a Provincial road and there for does not have to conform to City of Calgary standards?
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^^ Completely different style of lights. Deerfoot uses a lot of High-mast lighting that have reflectors on them to direct the light down.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 7:07 PM
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Redford, McIver, Whitney at signing. Global.

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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 7:10 PM
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Correct. City Roads vs Alberta Transportation standards.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 7:12 PM
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The light pollution is regrettable, but Stoney is lit so much better than Deerfoot it's not even funny. Massively safer. Not to mention a good 20% of the lights on Deerfoot are burned out.
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Yep, the SW deal is signed. Chief Whitney stated that it is probably the most important modern event in the history of the Nation.

Now we wait for the federal government.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2013, 7:36 PM
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CBC reporting minimum of $1.9 billion price tag for road. Not sure if that is opening day or ultimate.
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Is that on top of the $340.7M paid to the Nation? To me $1.9B sounds way low for the ultimate so it must be opening.
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This is awesome news.
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Is that on top of the $340.7M paid to the Nation? To me $1.9B sounds way low for the ultimate so it must be opening.
No details yet, so not sure.

The 2008 estimate for the Ultimate was about $1.74 billion for the ultimate phase. This is from 101st/Glenmore to Highway 22x, NOT for the west or south portions either, so I am assuming opening day for all 3 portions?
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Yep, the SW deal is signed. Chief Whitney stated that it is probably the most important modern event in the history of the Nation.

Now we wait for the federal government.
Pretty historic day for both sides - the ring road is, what, 50 years in the making?

Getting this deal signed was one of the biggest obstacles to overcome... Glad it's done now and it appears there isn't any lingering animosity between the parties

What's the timeline for the feds to give the green light? IIRC it could take up to 2 or 3 years? I'd like to think that with 3/4 of the road already done that this won't take particularly long
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Pretty historic day for both sides - the ring road is, what, 50 years in the making?

Getting this deal signed was one of the biggest obstacles to overcome... Glad it's done now and it appears there isn't any lingering animosity between the parties

What's the timeline for the feds to give the green light? IIRC it could take up to 2 or 3 years? I'd like to think that with 3/4 of the road already done that this won't take particularly long
I can pinpoint the first public mention of a SW bypass to an announcement in November of 1955 by the Provincial Highways Minister, but I know that both the Province and the City were working on it before that. The City began sometime between 1953-1955 and I'm not entirely sure when the idea was first formulated at the Province.

The Nation has stated that they have evidence of the road being brought to their attention in 1947. I haven't seen that, so I can't comment, beyond saying that it seems very early to be a part of any kind of ring road plan, but could well be part of early explorations of the Trans Canada Highway routing.

Before recently, I was assuming that an 18-24 month timeframe was likely for all of the federal government involvement, ans that was not uncommon at the time. It's not just a sale, but it includes additions to and subtractions from the reserve, plus the money being held in trust. The federal approval is also to protect themselves against future land claims, so they will want to do it right. It's possible that the deal includes environmental sign off by the feds, and also possible that the land swap also involves contested lands/utilities.

Saying all of that, the federal minister responsible (Kenney?) has stated that he would like to see it all go through in a matter of months, so it will be interesting to see how it goes. Don't forget that much if it borders Harper's riding, so maybe there are external pressures to fast track a deal?
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This has to go through a CEAA assessment. 24 months minimum.
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