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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 4:36 PM
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Major roadway just suck, with the amount of lanes and people turning into commercial plazas.
yeppers. I feel like I am playing Dodgeball, but with the endless cars that keep whizzing and turning. Absolutely wretched from an urban fabric perspective, and cannot be fixed by tall buildings. Ontario in general is really bad at building walkable commerical districts in the suburbs. I live in London, and outside the core (and the notable exception of Wortley Village) there are no commercial districts suitable for walking. Not just soul-sucking, but downright hazardous.

Wonderland Road is one of London's main commercial arteries. Would you like to walk along it?
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I don't think that's just an Ontario problem.
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Why call it MCC, and use it to represent MCC and use it as a basis for critcizing MCC, if it's not MCC, it's a different neighbourhood with different policies? I think it's misleading.

I can do the same:
https://goo.gl/maps/t3JYTtBj4u72

More MCC awfulness?
https://goo.gl/maps/3En1GEp2Hp92

There are already enough reasons to criticize MCC before including the stuff surrounding it.



Point is, there were only 4 office buildings and Square One in MCC in 1982. Everything else was built after, as greenfield development, not redevelopment. I see little in common with Burnaby's Metrotown.

Here's Mississauga City Centre in 1978. Compare with that 1982 picture of Metrotown that Pinion posted:

http://www.mississauga.ca/portal/res...%3Fstart%3D181
I call it MCC because you are the first person out of many, many people to say it isn't.

It really doesn't matter to me that MCC was a greenfield 35 years ago and Burnaby was a village because, I don't think that has, in any way, lead to either cities choosing the form of subdivision and highrise development over the course of those decade.
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Richmond is getting close to what feels to be a real downtown, and not just a city centre with tall(ish) buildings. Richmond's high(?)rises may be dull, but they interact with the street level much better than say, those in MCC. The streets are also far more friendly for pedestrians.
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More Burnaby's Metrotown.









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Old Posted Jul 23, 2017, 9:41 PM
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Richmond is getting close to what feels to be a real downtown, and not just a city centre with tall(ish) buildings. Richmond's high(?)rises may be dull, but they interact with the street level much better than say, those in MCC. The streets are also far more friendly for pedestrians.
Yep. Richmond gets very little attention on the forum, but I think it is one of Vancouver's most urban suburbs, just after New Westminster and North Vancouver. Definitely past Burnaby. Making great strides.
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New Westminster is a nice little suburban town east of Burnaby along Fraser River. Some people call New Westminster "Vancouver's Brooklyn" due to its great streetlife.





The Port of Surrey is located on the opposite side of the river.





New-ish South Fraser Perimeter Road runs along the southern banks of the river.



Metrotown skyline in the distance.

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Why call it MCC, and use it to represent MCC and use it as a basis for critcizing MCC, if it's not MCC, it's a different neighbourhood with different policies? I think it's misleading.

I can do the same:
https://goo.gl/maps/t3JYTtBj4u72

More MCC awfulness?
https://goo.gl/maps/3En1GEp2Hp92

There are already enough reasons to criticize MCC before including the stuff surrounding it.



Point is, there were only 4 office buildings and Square One in MCC in 1982. Everything else was built after, as greenfield development, not redevelopment. I see little in common with Burnaby's Metrotown.

Here's Mississauga City Centre in 1978. Compare with that 1982 picture of Metrotown that Pinion posted:

http://www.mississauga.ca/portal/res...%3Fstart%3D181

Now it makes sense. The photo doesn't even show Hurontario. There were numerous apartment buildings already built by 1982 just "outside of MCC" as you say.
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Yep. Richmond gets very little attention on the forum, but I think it is one of Vancouver's most urban suburbs, just after New Westminster and North Vancouver. Definitely past Burnaby. Making great strides.
Outside Steveston it has a street life issue, doesn't feel very urban to me. Very pleasant though.

What is the main walkable/retail area for New West? I see its potential, they've done a good job with the waterfront, and their pro-development mindset will help long term, but it seems like the "Brooklyn" praise is a little premature.
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Mississauga, taken today. Taken in a newish area, about 7-8 km north east of the downtown of that suburb:
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^ I visited Miss Sausage for the first time of my life last friday.

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Yea....that's a pretty accurate way of describing it. The single thing Mississauga is doing better than Laval (Other than not having a Clockzilla) is that the city is going to build an LRT on the road you took that photo on, Hurontario. From the lake to the north border. Construction is next year, it'll sure piss off a lot of people.
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Yea....that's a pretty accurate way of describing it. The single thing Mississauga is doing better than Laval (Other than not having a Clockzilla) is that the city is going to build an LRT on the road you took that photo on, Hurontario. From the lake to the north border. Construction is next year, it'll sure piss off a lot of people.
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At least, The Mississauga Civic Center has a huge clock tower

And I didn't know for the LRT project. Do you have renders? Is it going be built elevated or on street level ?

''it'll sure piss off a lot of people'' ... Even with their super-large Boulevards? They have plenty of room !
Do the same on Yonge St. and I would understand the Chaos. But there...

Otherwise, I found the Marilyn Monroe towers beautiful, but that's about the only thing I found beautiful in this area.
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I think people will be pissed no matter what, even with their huge roads and a new faster mode of transport. A lot of people tend to be riding a high horse and don't actually see what things like this do for a city.

Yes, it is street-level. They otta rebuild a good few bridges, like the railway ones and the ones that cross freeways.

If only Mississauga had the ability to build even a slight smidge like this render...


I think I hate these renders....Eglinton at Hurontario will not look like this at all...in most regards.
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^ Interesting ! Looks like I filmed Mississauga on time, before the ''Chaos'' begins !
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I don't know if I agree with Surrey having much urban potential. The only areas with potential are Whalley and Guildford. And while they may not have the mega arterials like Burnhamthorpe, they seem to be plagued with gated neighbourhoods of townhomes popping up on every major roadway. Those aren't going anywhere any time soon and are going to be major obstacles to building an inviting streetscape.

Once you leave those areas you're solidly in the SFH territory, and I don't think there are going to be too many strip malls knocked down in the next few years to build condos in Newton.
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Mississauga (Night time)

Great shot of Surrey! Huge skyline....holy sh*t

I took the first two 4 days back, and the last one just about weeks ago
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