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Old Posted Apr 10, 2019, 11:02 PM
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2019, 4:41 AM
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1130 N. State





This meeting was a NIMBY bitch fest of ageism and classism. You should have heard the sneers and jeers when they heard the fact that the tower will be rental and expected to cater to the younger generation.

-1130 N. State

-State & Elm

-Newcastle Development

-DX (7) is current zoning and no change is being requested, but PD triggered because of height.

-39 + mechanical = 40 stories

-368 units

-168 parking

-.3 - .4 vehicles per unit

-10 units per floor

-435’
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2019, 5:05 AM
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^ That's gonna be Hangge Uppe hookup heaven for those 'younge professionals' haha

But seriously, some nice density in that area. I can definitely see the demand for a more luxury rental surrounded by those dated rentals and the very posh condo tower across the street.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2019, 12:46 PM
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Are those active uses I’m seeing above the street level?
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Are those active uses I’m seeing above the street level?
Looks like retail at the base, some retail or commercial above that, and then the tower. Not bad. And the blue glass is a) not a box, and b) deviates from much of the nearby towers. Not bad! I bet they fill that building up no problem at that location.
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Are those active uses I’m seeing above the street level?
2 floors of retail with the second floor being double height along the street frontages to conceal parking.

Although no timetable was stated, the project team would like to begin soon after approvals are secured.
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Who is the architect? Based on the watercolor-esque imagery, I'm guessing HPA?
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2019, 2:12 PM
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I definitely like it, certainly way better than a 2 level store.

Hopefully NIMBYs don't shout it down. It already complies with zoning, but this "it automatically triggers a PD" policy just seems goofy to me. I mean, what's the point of zoning then?
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Wow, this 'single column of recessed balconies' fad isn't going anywhere is it? Looks like a giant zipper. The retail base could be hit or miss depending on materials/ execution.

Any additional info or renderings for the 11 story project Newcastle is also developing a block north? According to the trib article a few weeks back both projects were to be presented at the meeting.
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who is the architect? Based on the watercolor-esque imagery, i'm guessing hpa?
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1130 N. State...
This meeting was a NIMBY bitch fest of ageism and classism. You should have heard the sneers and jeers when they heard the fact that the tower will be rental and expected to cater to the younger generation.

-1130 N. State

-State & Elm

-Newcastle Development

-DX (7) is current zoning and no change is being requested, but PD triggered because of height.

-39 + mechanical = 40 stories

-368 units

-168 parking

-.3 - .4 vehicles per unit

-10 units per floor

-435’
I'll miss the Barnes and Noble.
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Not a fan of the Franken-çade. I'd prefer some other way of breaking up the mass than a simulated fine-grained block.

The frontage on Rush is nice, though, and should be attractive for contemporary retailers with an emphasis on presence and physical advertising.
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The retail base could be hit or miss depending on materials/ execution.
Newcastle generally does a good job in terms of quality. The last tower they did was the SCB apartment tower at Chestnut and State with the nice colonnade widening the sidewalk. If you look at the base of that tower it incorporates actual granite panels into the otherwise metal panel and glass facade. That whole tower turned out nicely so if that's any harbinger of what's to come with this proposal I think we are in good shape. I wouldn't be surprised if that tan base is all limestone like the base of the condo tower across the street.
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Uhh, since the glass is curved and facing east where the sun will rise, shouldn't there be concerns that the glass will reflect and focus the sunlight?
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Uhh, since the glass is curved and facing east where the sun will rise, shouldn't there be concerns that the glass will reflect and focus the sunlight?


This is the kind of stupid crap that NIMBYs bitch about.

When you live in a city, sometimes reflected light hits your damned head. Go to a cornfield already...
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When you live in a city, sometimes reflected light hits your damned head. Go to a cornfield already...
Ok I think the concern is more that it would focus the light, like the walkie-talkie building in London that melted cars and lit rugs on fire because it's shape focused the light too much.
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This is the kind of stupid crap that NIMBYs bitch about.

When you live in a city, sometimes reflected light hits your damned head. Go to a cornfield already...
A complaint about a building's design doesn't necessarily make someone is a NIMBY...

See the many examples of how curved glass/metal have focused light and become dangerous rays:
https://gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-...ngs-1247657178
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^ Ahh, understood.

We hear so many random and silly complaints from NIMBYs that I didn't give you the benefit of the doubt. My apologies!
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Curved glass has to be a parabola to actually focus the light. It should be easy for them to avoid that and still have a concave curve.
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Yeah, this one looks to be only half a parabola that is angled slightly to the North also with a row of balconies breaking it up. It also is only convex on the North South axis and not on the up down axis so it might create a "line" of somewhat concentrated light, but not a beam like the Walkie Talkie.
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