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^ That is one nicely-graded site!

I see Case is wasting no time whatsoever. Hope this one pleasantly surprises us. I don't have high hopes considering they put relatively zero effort into renderings.
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Wow, those unobstructed views of Millennium Park, right from the corner. They are only doing 25 floors here? This land seems too valuable.
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Wow, those unobstructed views of Millennium Park, right from the corner. They are only doing 25 floors here? This land seems too valuable.
absolutely...don't get the lack of height for this project...even with a zoning change request im sure there wouldn't of been any push back at this location.
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^ yeah, it's one thing to play things a little safe on a less than stellar site, but this seems like it has "wasted opportunity" written all over it based on the location and potential views higher floors would've had over the park.
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This building is short and ugly as sin. It makes 300N Michigan Ave look like building of the year. This would have been a great spot for another 800 footer, but maybe the lot isn't big enough #doubtIt
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this forum clearly can't discuss affordable housing issues in a mature and respectful fashion, so those posts have been deleted.
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Loop property sale raises prospect of big tower
The owner of the office building at 77 W. Wacker acquired the Garvey Court property next door. The property, which was at the center of a bankruptcy battle a few years ago, offers a compelling development opportunity.


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That building remaining mostly empty is such an eyesore.
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The owner of the office building at 77 W. Wacker acquired the Garvey Court property next door. The property, which was at the center of a bankruptcy battle a few years ago, offers a compelling development opportunity.


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very interesting.

though the article says that the other 2 buildings in the PD have veto power over any potential redevelopment of the site, and with one of those buildings being the god-awful 200 N dearborn condo tower, my guess is that the west-facing units there will fight tooth and nail to stop any tall development on the site from ever being built.
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^ Interesting but my guess is - and purely a guess - that they will redevelop as a small building like something you see in the rendering. Article states that OHSTRS was effectively vetoing the previous 80+ story 'plan' for the site (under previous ownership). While I don't know exactly why they were against it (it was a stretch imo to ever really call it a real project, as there was no real comparable track record by developers in evidence), it was not because it would introduce office space competition - it was not office, it was resi/hotel and thus likely complementary if well-executed and hitting the right market, etc. So, was it the threat of view blockage? That's the other main possibility (absent just a lack of confidence in the developer to pull the project off). If that's the case, then unless they did a 180 there, they won't build something tall obviously. I could be completely wrong, but that's my guess. Watch them redevelop as a food hall.
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absolutely...don't get the lack of height for this project...even with a zoning change request im sure there wouldn't of been any push back at this location.

It is a mystery. Still don't get it. I think they might have gotten some push back potentially above a certain height, but from my point of view the developer just simply left 150-250 units on the table (maybe 20-25 stories). Just to not go through what would probably be a fairly run-of-the-mill entitlement process (don't see a groundswell of controoversy likely for a project of this nature in this location).

Just a weird calculus.
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Technically the caissons are long gone - only the piers remain.

Caissons are the steel tubes used when installing piers in our viscous clay, they are removed and re-used.


So I could have been long using incorrect terminology, but my understanding was always that caissons, drilled shafts and drilled piers are interchangeable terms and refer to the actual foundations themselves. And caisson sleeves (and probably other interchangeable terms) are what are removed. Wrong?
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It is a mystery. Still don't get it. I think they might have gotten some push back potentially above a certain height, but from my point of view the developer just simply left 150-250 units on the table (maybe 20-25 stories). Just to not go through what would probably be a fairly run-of-the-mill entitlement process (don't see a groundswell of controoversy likely for a project of this nature in this location).

Just a weird calculus.
Why do you think there would of been push back even at a taller height as this location ?.....i never could understand the rationale behind push back on height especially the most ridiculous claim that shouldn't even been warranted by any alderman about blocking someones views. The loop of all places in the city shouldn't even have have any inkling of problems for going tall... the fact that alderman Reilly keeps playing this game even in places like the loop is reason why alderman in this city are so corrupted.
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