Better : Worse : Same - Page 2

ThatOneGuy · #21 Posted **Jan 21, 2013, 10:06 PM**

Former, WTC Twin Towers

Current 1 WTC

WORSE!!

Yackemflaber69 · #22 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 1:00 AM**

^ agreed

jd3189 · #23 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 1:14 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy

Former, WTC Twin Towers

Current 1 WTC

WORSE!!

Agreed, but the new WTC in all is a worthy successor enough for the old WTC. But with that being said, nothing will replace the dominance and iconic grandeur of the Twin Towers when all is said and done.

ThatOneGuy · #24 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 3:00 AM**

Before:

After:

Better

Before

After:

WORSE (kidding)

thomax · #25 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 7:32 AM**

Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Current: McMaster Downtown Centre

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Prior: Hamilton Court House - 1879-1956

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Current = Worse
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Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Current: Retail/Office Building

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Prior: The Hamilton Provident and Loan Building 1881-1960

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(On the right in the image below)

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Current = Worse

thomax · #26 Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 8:15 AM**

Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Prior: Waldorf Hotel

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Current: Royal Connaught Hotel (Abandoned since 2004)

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Future: Royal Connaught Hotel Redevelopment (Plans just released today)

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Current = Better (Even though it has been abandoned since 2004, the Royal Connaught is a much nicer building than the Waldorf was)

Future = WAY BETTER (Construction starts this spring)

THE BIG APPLE · #27 Posted **Jan 25, 2013, 6:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jonboy1983

Big Apple, quick question...

In that "before" shot of the Chrystler Building, I see open parcels (open as in, no development, but apparently "no ground" either) in the vicinity of Grand Central. Are those cut-and-cover subway tunnels? If they are, holy heck!

More on-topic, I didn't see one yet for NY Penn Station and Madison Square Garden. It's probably not even worth it to mention. I'm sure our opinions will be close to 100 percent agreement.

One for Pittsburgh:

Former convention center to the behemoth of one they have now -- BETTER!!!!

Sorry, I do not possess any pics of either one.

Apology for the delayed response.

Here's another picture from 1909, except from ground level.

All those lines were interconnected through Grand Central Terminal. This was all planned for the proposed Terminal City and a new high end blvd you might recognize today as Park Avenue (which is not built yet in the photo), and also included the super secret platform number 61, aka F.D.R's quick private highway from GCT to the Waldorf Astoria hotel.

About the Convention Center pics (here they are).

Current: David L. Lawrence Convention Center

Prior: Old (Pittsburgh) Convention Center

BETTER

MolsonExport · #28 Posted **Jan 25, 2013, 1:34 PM**

Quote:

Beaux-Arts masterpiece.

thomax · #29 Posted **Jan 25, 2013, 4:39 PM**

Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

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Current: New Hamilton Post Office (Now The John Sopinka Courthouse)

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Prior: Hamilton Post Office

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Current = Same

THE BIG APPLE · #30 Posted **Jan 25, 2013, 5:08 PM**

^ I'd say the current is a tad bit worse than the prior. But both are great buildings, but architecturally the old building is superior. You're not wrong either, I could see where people prefer the current building.

THE BIG APPLE · #31 Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 10:08 PM**

Current: Woolworth Building

Prior: Store Fronts

BETTER

Current: Manhattan Mall

Prior: Gimbel Bros. Building

WORSE

Current: World Wide Plaza

Prior: Madison Square Garden (1925)

SAME

RyanD · #32 Posted **Jan 30, 2013, 11:33 PM**

Denver has a lot of worse situations.. Here's my personal most hated one:

Current: Federal Reserve Branch

http://denverdailyphoto.files.wordpress.com

Prior: Tabor Opera House

http://www.babydoe.org

WORSE

Current: Parking Lot

http://www.denverinfill.com

Prior: Hotel Cosmopolitan

http://www.denverinfill.com

WORSE TO THE EXTREME

Current: Republic Plaza

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87782196@N08/

Prior: Republic Building

http://www.denverpost.com

Hard to say because this is our tallest skyscraper but we lost a cool building.. I say SAME

Current: EPA Building

http://www.denverinfill.com

Prior: US Postal Annex Building

http://www.denverinfill.com

BETTER

animatedmartian · #33 Posted **Jan 31, 2013, 12:15 AM**

Before

Police Department HQ

http://dlxs.lib.wayne.edu/cgi/i/imag...-22348%5D22348

After (1928)

Water Board Build (view from opposite direction)

IMGP4438 by AnimatedMartian, on Flickr

I find the Police HQ more architecturally interesting for a low-rise building but overall I'd say it's the SAME.

THE BIG APPLE · #34 Posted **Feb 8, 2013, 12:27 AM**

Current: Time Warner Center

Prior: New York Coliseum

BETTER

Current: One Astor Plaza

Prior: Hotel Astor

WORSE

Current: Trump Tower

Prior: Bonwit Teller Building

SAME

Jonboy1983 · #35 Posted **Feb 8, 2013, 2:05 AM**

Thanks for the David Lawrence Convention Center pics, Big Apple. I agree the 2003 construction is far better. That dark dungeon from 1981 really wasn't doing the city any favors at all. From the looks of that old photo, I'd say that was circa 1983 or 1984 and taken from teh vicinity of either the Gulf Tower or the Koppers Building. In that pic you have:

Liberty Center (Federated Building and Westin Hotel) not yet built, and it was completed in 1986.
Pressley Street Highrise across the river is built (completed in 1982).

Going back to the initial photo, it is fascinating to see how Terminal City was developed. Hard to believe that that would become a series of wide streets, a few avenues, and one very massive Park Avenue, filled in with blocks and blocks of office towers.