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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 2:48 PM
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They're tearing down Coyne to build 330 N. Green. 333 is on lot east of Coyne, 360 is the lot north of Coyne. The movie theater is 345 N. Sangamon.

On this map with the superimposed site plans for 330/333/360 North Green, it seems that 360 isn't making any accommodations for the lead tracks to the West Loop Transportation Center complex.

One can certainly debate the usefulness and necessity of the WLTC in the first place, but it does seem a waste to force K Station to draw their entire master plan around that right-of-way, and yet completely abandon it here.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 4:57 PM
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On this map with the superimposed site plans for 330/333/360 North Green, it seems that 360 isn't making any accommodations for the lead tracks to the West Loop Transportation Center complex.

One can certainly debate the usefulness and necessity of the WLTC in the first place, but it does seem a waste to force K Station to draw their entire master plan around that right-of-way, and yet completely abandon it here.
I understand what you mean, but if they really wanted to build a bullet train then they could easily find a solution to it by tunneling under the existing tracks of building some sort of double decker train bridge over that short stretch. Hardly kills any plan
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 7:38 PM
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On this map with the superimposed site plans for 330/333/360 North Green, it seems that 360 isn't making any accommodations for the lead tracks to the West Loop Transportation Center complex.

One can certainly debate the usefulness and necessity of the WLTC in the first place, but it does seem a waste to force K Station to draw their entire master plan around that right-of-way, and yet completely abandon it here.
They are turning that section into a park sandwiched between the tracks and the building.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 6:14 AM
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On this map with the superimposed site plans for 330/333/360 North Green, it seems that 360 isn't making any accommodations for the lead tracks to the West Loop Transportation Center complex.

One can certainly debate the usefulness and necessity of the WLTC in the first place, but it does seem a waste to force K Station to draw their entire master plan around that right-of-way, and yet completely abandon it here.
I agree with you... it would be great if smart planning in the 2000s allowed us to build a good HSR station in the 2030s with a minimum of tunneling. Obviously there's no will (or money) to build anything like that today, but eventually we'll figure it out. The bare minimum we can do today is preserve right-of-way.

However - 360 N Green hasn't been approved yet, the only approvals are for 330 and 333. Perhaps this issue will be addressed. Selfishly, I would love a movie theater at 345 N Morgan that I could ride the Pink Line to, and then grab a drink at the Ace afterward... but this site may strategically be better for Sterling Bay's third office tower.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 8:52 AM
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Article on some Sears renovation details.

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333 green. A look inside. Views are going to be killer from the roof lounge.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2018/3/13...renderings-som
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333 green. A look inside. Views are going to be killer from the roof lounge.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2018/3/13...renderings-som
*330 Green.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 7:56 PM
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Union West breaking ground later this month...!

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I agree with you... it would be great if smart planning in the 2000s allowed us to build a good HSR station in the 2030s with a minimum of tunneling. Obviously there's no will (or money) to build anything like that today, but eventually we'll figure it out. The bare minimum we can do today is preserve right-of-way.

However - 360 N Green hasn't been approved yet, the only approvals are for 330 and 333. Perhaps this issue will be addressed.....
It looks like only the north side of the row needs to be preserved, and that SB outline for 360 includes that narrow sliver. If they do own it the city could still request/require set aside. Also IIRC there was talk from Metra/CDOT/SB?? about adding a Metra stop in the WL.
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We need more neighborhoods where the trains run at grade full speed down the middle of the street. They should leave Fulton Market like that and they should relocate the metra tracks in the 78 to just rip down the middle of the Wells Wentworth connector like the South Shore Line in Indiana.
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We need more neighborhoods where the trains run at grade full speed down the middle of the street. They should leave Fulton Market like that and they should relocate the metra tracks in the 78 to just rip down the middle of the Wells Wentworth connector like the South Shore Line in Indiana.
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We need more neighborhoods where the trains run at grade full speed down the middle of the street. They should leave Fulton Market like that and they should relocate the metra tracks in the 78 to just rip down the middle of the Wells Wentworth connector like the South Shore Line in Indiana.
I loved these too as a kid, but no. Can we compromise and put the viaducts above ground, so you still get to see the choo-choo?
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I loved these too as a kid, but no. Can we compromise and put the viaducts above ground, so you still get to see the choo-choo?
Yeah, Metra running at grade, in the middle of the street, through parts of the city seems like a bad idea to me from a public safety perspective.
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Yeah, Metra running at grade, in the middle of the street, through parts of the city seems like a bad idea to me from a public safety perspective.
..at full speed... should be a million laughs. You could sell tickets.
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1,000 apartments for Goose Island?

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The Greyhound maintenance facility site, outlined in red, includes nearly 8 acres on the southern tip of Goose Island

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Goose Island could get its first-ever residential development if a Canadian developer has its way with a high-profile site in the heart of the North Branch Industrial Corridor.

Onni Group is lining up a deal to buy an eight-acre maintenance facility site from bus company Greyhound on the southern tip of Goose Island, according to multiple sources.

The agreement still could fall apart, and a spokesman for Onni and Greyhound's broker declined to comment. But one source familiar with the prospective buyer's vision said Onni is mulling building as many as 1,000 residential units on land known for its long industrial history.

If that plan came to fruition, it could provide momentum for further mixed-use development in an area poised to become a hub of office, retail and entertainment uses.

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One key to the site's value is that it's zoned differently from the rest of Goose Island. The site has comparable zoning as the Tribune Media-owned site across the river from it at 700 W. Chicago Ave., where developer John O'Donnell plans a four-tower complex that includes three office buildings and one residential.

Onni would still need zoning and City Council approval to pursue a residential development on the site.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 5:34 PM
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It looks like only the north side of the row needs to be preserved, and that SB outline for 360 includes that narrow sliver. If they do own it the city could still request/require set aside. Also IIRC there was talk from Metra/CDOT/SB?? about adding a Metra stop in the WL.
Just for reference, here is a map of the (approximate) location of this right-of-way. Fulton Station condos (330 N Clinton) are in the way, but I believe I read on here sometime that they are low rises built with intentionally shallow foundations since they are on top of the Blue Line, and therefore would be pretty easy to dig under.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 5:43 PM
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360 N Green was approved today at plan commission.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 6:12 PM
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1624 W. Division

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Old Posted Mar 15, 2018, 6:21 PM
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Wow, I get a very Lower East Side vibe from those images. Glad to hear that NIMBYs didn't kill the project
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wow the land around that EL stop has immensely increased its density in the past few years, this is what the TOD is supposed to do!
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