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pianowizard · #**4881** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

It's #5 right now. Top 25 tallest buildings under construction right now...

Did you find these on the Diagrams page? It's not as complete as the forums.

marothisu · #**4882** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

Did you find these on the Diagrams page? It's not as complete as the forums.

Elsewhere...

F1 Tommy · #**4883** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

You think NYC is over building a little bit

Any other webcams for Vista?? The glass seems to be going up really slow still.

cozy · #**4884** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy

The glass seems to be going up really slow still.

It takes a crew 2-4 full workdays for every ~15 panels on the climbing framework, because they have to install the frames and spandrel glass

The normal areas, away from elevator cores where they can install from the inside of the building, they do really quickly. the glass panels for the smaller floors can be lifted and installed by two men, no machinery needed. I've seen them knock out 20 panels in one day. I wish they would get rocking on those areas, they go many days without adding one panel sometimes

RedCorsair87 · #**4885** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:01 PM**

This list shows how comical the recent headline Chicago has been using: "2nd Most Tower Cranes In The Country in 2017." Look at what NYC is building versus us. No competition.

Investing In Chicago · #**4886** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

I think 45 Broad will be taller, at least according to SSP - but I counted 2 WTC as U/C which it may not be. So at worst #7 but probably #6 tallest in country U/C right now.
Either way, still great for Chicago.

akbussey · #**4887** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by RedCorsair87

This list shows how comical the recent headline Chicago has been using: "2nd Most Tower Cranes In The Country in 2017." Look at what NYC is building versus us. No competition.

Cranes are used to build more than just Supertalls like Vista and NYC condos....

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ches-new-peak/

RedCorsair87 · #**4888** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:40 PM**

I'm aware. I think it is a rather misleading headline when many of the buildings u/c buildings in NYC are two or three times the size of some of the buildings we are building and I imagine most of what is being built in Seattle.

Freefall · #**4889** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 5:42 PM**

NYC only has 20 cranes? That seems... low

Fvn · #**4890** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Freefall

NYC only has 20 cranes? That seems... low

That sounds about right. A lot of the smaller 20-floor residential buildings in NYC are built without the use of a tower crane. Because its cheaper and a lot of those floor plates are extremely small + the only thing they really need to lift is rebar/wood which is easily accomplished with the use of a street crane or a spider crane (Google it, they're cool). They only really need a crane one day out of the week.

MorganChi · #**4891** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Donnie77

I think Vista is going to pull a Houdini on the skyline!

I was thinking the same bro

chris08876 · #**4892** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 10:46 PM**

20 cranes in NY? Whatever they are smoking, I want some.

There's way more. I know, because I was just in the city today. More than 20 in Manhattan alone. Problem is, I doubt these authors take the time to walk the streets. There's a lot of smaller projects not known, in the 300-400 ft range that have cranes. In Midtown alone, they tend to not be noticed as 300-400 ft nada and you'll see them tucked in via the cross town streets, where the surrounding towers are 500-650 ft. The Bronx is also a hotspot as well. Again, lesser known projects unless you follow them or know about them.

If we are talking 20 cranes, over all 300 sq miles of the city, that list is full of crap.

Fvn · #**4893** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 11:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

20 cranes in NY? Whatever they are smoking, I want some.

There's way more. I know, because I was just in the city today. More than 20 in Manhattan alone. Problem is, I doubt these authors take the time to walk the streets. There's a lot of smaller projects not known, in the 300-400 ft range that have cranes. In Midtown alone, they tend to not be noticed as 300-400 ft nada and you'll see them tucked in via the cross town streets, where the surrounding towers are 500-650 ft. The Bronx is also a hotspot as well. Again, lesser known projects unless you follow them or know about them.

If we are talking 20 cranes, over all 300 sq miles of the city, that list is full of crap.

If I recall I think that list goes off of permits filed so far in the year (+ the cranes in the air at the start of the year? Not 100% tho). Because in July Chicago didn't have 40 tower cranes in the air (only 21 or 22). 20 still seems low for NYC though.

Steely Dan · #**4894** Posted **Nov 16, 2018, 11:25 PM**

the fact that the SSP database lists 91 buildings >300' currently U/C in NYC (and that is likely a big under-count), the notion that there are only 20 tower cranes currently in the skies of NYC is ludicrously low.

whatever methodology that "study" is using, the results don't come anywhere even remotely close to passing the sniff test.

BonoboZill4 · #**4895** Posted **Nov 17, 2018, 1:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

the fact that the SSP database lists 91 buildings >300' currently U/C in NYC (and that is likely a big under-count), the notion that there are only 20 tower cranes currently in the skies of NYC is ludicrously low.

whatever methodology that "study" is using, the results don't come anywhere even remotely close to passing the sniff test.

Yep, no way that is possible