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Old Posted May 20, 2016, 12:07 AM
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^Yeah I rather like Killefer Flammang, or as I read it Killer Flaming
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6th and Kingsley isn't half bad!
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I was worried for a little bit, but looks like LA getting its first TopGolf is going to happen!

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Old Posted May 20, 2016, 3:30 AM
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This is somewhat relevant. The first robotic garage on the West Coast is opening in West Hollywood on May 24th.

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From Curbed: "the parking garage takes up 7,000 less square feet than a normal garage of its capacity"
http://la.curbed.com/2016/5/19/11715...parking-garage

So less space, time and pollution wasted parking cars...just build a 500 ft one in DT and eliminate all the parking podiums.
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Old Posted May 20, 2016, 4:31 PM
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After 63 years, rail service will be restored between Santa Monica and downtown Los Angeles.







Just a few more years from lettered lines!
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That would make Westside Pavilion a lot more attractive. It's kind of strange that the mall doesn't have an entrance on the corner of Westwood/Pico right now.
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Old Posted May 21, 2016, 4:10 AM
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^omg there was an add for the new Drake album on the train. you don't need to advertise it
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Old Posted May 21, 2016, 7:03 AM
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^ Ha, the guy's making some noise as hell over here too. They say his new release is even advertised to the CN Tower in Toronto. It's a strange thing when pop stars are that idolized, but much of an LA thing, isn't it?
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Old Posted May 22, 2016, 10:40 PM
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Beverly Hilton owner wants voters to approve 26-story condo tower

From the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...nap-story.html (Sorry I went crazy with the bold and got too lazy to revise)



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Last decade, real estate investor Beny Alagem narrowly secured voter approval to construct not only a Waldorf Astoria hotel next to the Beverly Hilton, but also two condo towers -- including an 18-story building that would be the tallest in Beverly Hills. The referendum proved a significant victory for Alagem in the development-wary city, but it also was contentious, with some opponents making allegations of voter fraud that were never proven.

Now, the owner of the Beverly Hilton is back to take on his opponents again, and this time he wants to go even higher. He’s campaigning to pack all his planned 110 condos into a single 26-story high-rise, and isn’t pinching pennies to get his way. Alagem and his affiliated companies have so far spent more than $1.2 million, city records show, on attorneys, public relations firms, advertising and other services to place an initiative on the November ballot. Passage would avoid additional city review that could drag on for years. The developer is pitching his proposal as a way to give Beverly Hills needed green space. Without the second building, he will have room to put in a 1.7-acre park that will serve as a gateway to the wealthy community near its border with Century City. Plans include fountains, walking paths, art sculptures and a rose garden. A restaurant would look out upon the park. “The whole entry into Beverly Hills will all have these green, beautiful exotic gardens,” said Alagem, 63, who is currently overseeing construction on the 170-room Waldorf Astoria. “It will be a very elegant place for people to come to gather and enjoy this urban oasis.”

Part of the impetus, of course, is economic. By changing the plans, Alagem said that not only would Beverly Hills residents gain a new park, but so would condo buyers and guests of the Hilton and Waldorf Astoria -- making the entire project more attractive and probably more profitable.

“It’s better for the community and better for us,” he said.

Supporters of the Beverly Hills Garden & Open Space Initiative backed by Alagem submitted more than 7,000 signatures this month. The county has until early June to verify that at least 2,110 of those are valid. Just like last time, Alagem’s Oasis West Realty is facing a backlash in a city that prides itself as being almost a small town in a huge metropolitan area. Critics have taken particular aim at Alagem’s move to put the decision directly before voters. Mayor John Mirisch said passage of the initiative would hand the developer a more valuable project while allowing him to bypass studies to determine if the high-rise would worsen traffic, or create odd shade and shadow problems because of its height. He also worries that the project might attract more events.

“They are calling it the open space and garden initiative, when really it is an initiative to build a 375-foot skyscraper,” he said. “A 375-foot building in our city would absolutely be unprecedented.”

Alagem’s proposal probably would have taken about 12 to 18 months to process, including additional analysis under the California Environmental Quality Act and review by the Planning Commission and City Council, according to city staff. Independent land use experts put the time frame at even longer. “Bypassing the city and taking the issue straight to the voters could save two to three years,” said land use consultant Kate Bartolo, who is not involved in the Hilton proposal. Alagem believes further studies are unnecessary, because he isn’t adding additional uses, event space or housing units that would generate more traffic. He also contends that the 26-story tower would blend in with larger buildings just over the border in Century City.

Still, moving fast on such a luxurious project could have its own benefits given signs that the ultra-high-end market is sputtering across the country. Sales, for example, have slowed at marquee Manhattan condo towers that have units priced in the tens of millions of dollars. The luxury market has cooled to a lesser extent in Los Angeles, in part because developers haven’t flooded the market like they have in New York. More is coming though. A 59-unit Four Seasons-branded complex in Los Angeles is set to open on the edge of Beverly Hills next year and Chinese Developer Wanda Group is looking to build a hotel and 193 condos across from Alagem’s project.

“You don’t want to miss the cycle,” said Larry Kosmont, an L.A.-area urban development consultant. “We are probably midway to the end of a pretty robust real estate cycle, so every date counts.” Alagem said a slowdown is “always a concern.” He added that he’s not focused on today’s market, but rather on “creating the best plan for the property and the community in the future.” “One thing is certain in my opinion: We are going to create a very, very special building that in Beverly Hills today does not exist in a very large way,” he said. Alagem envisions a top-of-the-market luxury condo building, clad in Portuguese limestone, with a private fitness center and spa. Residents would enjoy concierge service from the Waldorf Astoria, which is expected to open next year. High rollers could have their shopping done, fridges stocked and concert tickets ordered and delivered.

The project, including the Waldorf Astoria, is expected to cost $700 million by the time it’s complete. The condo prices, though not yet precisely set, will reflect that. Alagem said that the top of the condo market in Los Angeles is currently around $2,000 a square foot, which translates to $6 million for a 3,000-square-foot condo -- expected to be the project’s average-sized unit. Perhaps not surprising in a city where development is closely scrutinized, even his planned park has become an issue of contention. The initiative states the privately owned park “shall generally be open to the public, hotel guests, event guests and residents.” Access, including hours, will be determined by Oasis and the “garden and open space may be used for private events from time to time.”

Some residents have expressed concern they would be stuck with an out-of-character tower while not getting a truly public park. “The so-called green space or garden is really under control of the Hilton,” said Thomas White, chairman of the Municipal League of Beverly Hills, a residents organization. Alagem counters that it would be open “all day long,” and only a small portion would be closed at times for private events. (Large events, such as the Golden Globes, though, probably would require the entire park to shutter for security reasons, he said.)

“I am not building a park to not make it accessible to people,” said Alagem, adding that if he wins approval he would record some sort of document to ensure nothing could be built there in the future. “This is a garden that will remain here forever.”

Born in Israel, Alagem co-founded Packard Bell Electronics in 1986 -- making him a wealthy man before he resigned as chief executive of the computer maker in 1998 after clashing with major shareholders. In 2003, his Oasis West paid $130 million to entertainer Merv Griffin for the Hilton, which by then had lost some of its allure. Since then, Alagem has plowed in an additional $100 million to restore the hotel, including room and ballroom renovations. In 2008, he gained voter approval to build the condos and the Waldorf Astoria, after angry residents succeeded in putting the council’s previous approval up for a referendum. When the project is completed, the property will total 47 fewer hotel rooms than when Alagem purchased it because a portion of the Hilton will be razed for the condos.

Not all Beverly Hills residents have concerns over Alagem’s latest pitch. Martin Geimer, a longtime resident and former city Recreation and Parks commissioner, said the new plan with a park is a better alternative than the first proposal. “It may be closed from time to time, but it’s still 100% green space, versus 100% building,” said Geimer, who added that he voluntarily helped collect signatures to get the proposal on the ballot. Alagem said he plans to start construction on the condo units, either as one building or two, a year after voters decide.

Still, if the 2008 election is any guide, the controversy may not be ended by the vote. After the referendum narrowly passed by 129 votes, opponents contended they discovered more than 550 instances of voting irregularities. Alagem called such claims “nonsense.” A spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney office said the complaint was reviewed and the office found “there was insufficient evidence to file any charges.”
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Old Posted May 22, 2016, 11:07 PM
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^^^ I'm digging the plan either way.

Am I the only one that thinks the Santa Monica Pier should stop with the parking on its deck and turn that area into Wooden rollercoaster and other attractions? ( google maps to see what I'm talking about), I was at the pier the other day, yes I know its arguably the biggest tourist trap in LA ( outside of Hollywood blvd) but man its SSOOOOOO outdated. They should also turn their car ramp into a pedestrian only bridge with stairs, escalators and wheel chair ramp. The pier and promenade is Santa Monica's biggest draw.

I know this is a long shot since they take in a lot of money with their parking but man that pier is officially an embarrassment. Whoever is running it needs a reality check asap.
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Old Posted May 22, 2016, 11:17 PM
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^^^ I'm digging the plan either way.

Am I the only one that thinks the Santa Monica Pier should stop with the parking on its deck and turn that area into Wooden rollercoaster and other attractions? ( google maps to see what I'm talking about), I was at the pier the other day, yes I know its arguably the biggest tourist trap in LA ( outside of Hollywood blvd) but man its SSOOOOOO outdated. They should also turn their car ramp into a pedestrian only bridge with stairs, escalators and wheel chair ramp. The pier and promenade is Santa Monica's biggest draw.

I know this is a long shot since they take in a lot of money with their parking but man that pier is officially an embarrassment. Whoever is running it needs a reality check asap.
They're renovating the ramp to include better pedestrian & wheelchair access -- and keeping the parking.

http://la.curbed.com/2014/3/13/10132...-ready-in-2017
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^omg there was an add for the new Drake album on the train. you don't need to advertise it
I feel so fortunate that what your talking about means absolutely nothing to me. Has mainstream pop music ever been worse than what it is now?
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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 2:36 AM
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^ Ha, the guy's making some noise as hell over here too. They say his new release is even advertised to the CN Tower in Toronto. It's a strange thing when pop stars are that idolized, but much of an LA thing, isn't it?
Well in Hollywood a lot of times they have adds on the street for music and that's fun and cool because it's where it's recorded a lot of the time. Else where though it's weird and unnecessary because nobody looks at an ad for a record and says "hmm I think I'll buy that."
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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 2:46 AM
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I feel so fortunate that what your talking about means absolutely nothing to me. Has mainstream pop music ever been worse than what it is now?
Not to get off topic but no. A few years back it was worse. It was more auto tuned and commercial. Then stuff started getting all hipster. Now pop music is all low tempo slow and somber stuff recently. The hipster trend has outlived its welcome. In the 90s, grunge was essentially dead by 1996. Hipster indie aucostic folk rock should be over 2016. but it's not.

Anyways I'll add something on topic now. I finally realized part of what rubs me the wrong way about the westside when I was in Santa Monica today. There's too many dorky rich parents with their bratty crying kids about who do nothing about their bad behavior. Kids from poorer households are so much better behaved. Ever noticed that? Though sometimes their parents will loudly and unnecessarily punish them in public and that's almost as bad.

Pics to come soon or maybe tomorrow from my visit today.
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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 5:38 AM
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From the Los Angeles Skyscrapercity thread...

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Light Rail
Los Angeles / Metro-LRT - 189,700 (2015) : -7.06%
DESPITE THE STATISTICS...

MAY 22nd, 2016

BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME!!!

A brief glimpse of the Expo Line Santa Monica station during my travel there today...









with another busy day at the pier...

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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 8:56 AM
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hipster is a meaningless word used by people to describe something that they don't like / something they resent for being cooler or more of the zeitgeist than they are. there is no single cultural thrust that embodies music anymore, the internet killed that. current music takes queues from every genre and every timeframe. if you don't like modern music, than you just haven't looked hard enough.

views sucks tho

on topic: santa monica is packed around colorado now. my friends were asking me if there was an event going on. just got back from new york, i'm excited to ride the length of the line tomorrow. i really think that the expo line is going to make a mark on los angeles far greater than what the conservative estimates by metro predict.
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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 9:11 AM
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I have a feeling the expo line won't be able to keep up with ridership in the future and might need to be converted into heavy rail... With Santa Monica being a big tourist draw, people are gonna see there's a metro station and just hop on, throw in locals and you got yourself a packed train. I'm probably wrong though lol
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Speaking of the Expo Line, the Martin Expo Town Center development picked an appropriate time to go before the City Planning Commission (this Thursday). Had an opportunity to interview the developer and project manager last week.

http://urbanize.la/post/talking-abou...po-town-center

In case you've forgotten, this is planned just north of Expo/Bundy Station, for the property now occupied by Martin Cadillac. 516 apartments, nearly 100,000 sq. ft. of retail and a 10-story, 200,000-square-foot office building.

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Excellent looking project. Design is good, Street and pedestrian interplay looks good and the scale is very appropriate for the area. God speed lol
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